Bartlein barrels vs krieger barrels forum Feb 26, 2016 · FWIW, the M80 I'm shooting is all ZQI ammo which I've confirmed (at least in a bolt gun) shoots the advertised MOA at 100 meters. Cut Rifling vs. They are excellent barrels. I'm trying to get maximum accuracy out of this build and I'm trying to decide between a heavy contour 1:10" Krieger or Criterion barrel. In my 223rem Tl3 barrel review and testing, the MW shot the best of all of them (Bartlein, Krieger, MW, Shilen, Benchmark) Sep 27, 2018 · Criterion Barrels, Inc. 25. Because they have more slope to the land sides, carbon is said to accumulate there less. 24 inch Lilja on top and my present 20 inch CLE/Bartlein on the bottom. Aug 29, 2011 · Understand your not bashing but with very little detail coming along with that statement it would lead me to believe that the other 9 positive reviews may be a more accurate take of these barrels. Jun 6, 2019 · Bartlein barrels are top notch barrels. Dan Muller been around a long time and knows what he's doinghis barrels are very well regarded. Any thoughts are much appreciated! Nov 4, 2017 · There's a link in there to another article specifically on Krieger barrels. 5 MOA range. I’m leaning towards a “MK12” from Type A or a 18 inch rifle from ADM but would go CLE with a Bartlein/Krieger barrel if the gurus Mar 11, 2016 · I have had several rifles chambered by top name 'smiths with #2 tubes from Douglas and Hart and most recently three Bartlein 2Bs. But thats beside the point, i wanted to share this video. Using a rem 700 la bdl and the new manners EH4 with the bdl chassis. I personaly believe the person chambering and crowning the barrel will be more of a factor than brand name. Of the guys who finished in the top 10 in terms of PRS Season ranking in the Open Division, 4 of those were running a 26” barrel, 3 were running a 28” barrel, 2 were running a 27” barrel, and 1 was running a 25” barrel. 2 barrels save 12. Sep 11, 2022 · Preferred Barrels, I have two. I use mostly Krieger or Bartlein barrels myself since I’m kinda stuck on cut rifled barrels. May 2, 2024 · Padom then tested ammo at 100 yards, again using his Krieger rimfire barrel: “To recap, the Krieger shot the best 50-yard results of the barrels tested so far, just barely beating the Bartlein but it was so close you can call the 50-yard results equal (. There is a post on the Savage Shooters web site you might find interesting in reading on this subject. Crazy thing is the factory heavy barrels shoot like match barrels a lot of the time, they just are a lot tougher to clean. Both clean up very well and the Krieger is 25' faster, but again, has a melonited barrel. Aug 6, 2023 · Basically the title. I've had barrels from Bartlein, Bartlein, Bartlein, and Bartlein (Anyone see a trend) With that said my next chambered barrel will be a Bartlein, but the one after that will come from Hawk Hill Custom Rifles. 9% of the time. Apr 30, 2024 · I'm on the waitlist for an M25RL build from LRB. Nov 15, 2019 · I got a Krieger barrel and a Bartlein barrel from Compass Lake last summer and built two AR uppers. It was GM, Bartlein, Benchmark, Krieger and Lilja. These barrels were both chambered by Keystone Accuracy using the same reamer, both were chopped at 24", both muzzles threaded 5/8-24. The Lilja barrels I've used in 6. Re: KREIGER Barrels VS HART Barrels They are both great quality barrels and there are many other barrel makers as well that produce great barrels like Shilen,Rock creek and the list goes on. Some say a heavier barrel is more accurate due to less whip or less effect from heat. I also hear other factors are far more influential. I own several and all are outstanding accurate and easy to clean barrels. 221FB and it wasn't the funnest thing but it wasn't impossible. Mar 17, 2025 · In the short range benchrest game Bartlein and Krieger barrels are used. The 5R barrels from krieger have been amazing so far. 5% off machining on both, 3 barrels save 25% off machining on all barrels. This may well be because the Krieger is on a BAT action and the Bartlein on a B78. Mar 9, 2018 · I've shot Krieger, Hart, Obermeyer, Blackstar (remember those? They were HARD) and Douglas in service rifle M14s, have a 22" Krieger in 308 from @MikeRTacOps, shot a couple John Holliger PacNor 1:6. Mar 2, 2019 · Bartlein, Krieger and Hawk Hill have all been good barrels. Nickle also increases barrel operating temperatureso why doesn't the military use it? Blame that on the military industrial complex of lining pockets and replaceable vs better. 237. 7” twists. That said, I've owned some fantastic shooting Bartlein 5R barrels and I would buy more Bartlein if my vendors had more choices in 4-groove. Bartlein. Velocity drop shows up quickly in performance. I like Krieger, but have moved to Bartlein. As far as the blanks go they equally perform but with CLE and Craddock you get to control every aspect and design of those barrels and that's what make the extra $200 Feb 1, 2021 · Thinking of buying a Vudoo rifle. 5 Grendel Build-It-Yourself & Custom Builds If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Barrel length will be 24" or 26". Re-installed the scope to the exact same position on the scope base and torque the ring screws to the same 55 in lb. That would be great if I had not heard specifically from Bartlein that in testing at ELR the bullets shot from the 4 groove vs the 5R exhibit "hop" when hitting transonic". Krieger have typically run the fastest per caliber for me, but Bartlein and Hawk Hill have always been good barrels. 224" cal SS 24" 5-groove 1-14 was great ! Mar 9, 2012 · I don't think that any of the new 'cheap' polygonal barrel makers have a good product. All of our barrels are manufactured using single-point cut-rifling and each and every barrel we make is thoroughly inspected and held to the same premium match grade standards, whether its an ammunition test barrel, a custom bolt action barrel or a ready-to-install finish chambered AR15. I have purchased WOA $225 service rifle barrels that stacked ten rounds just over a half inch at 100 yards. Dec 4, 2008 · I have Krieger barrels on two of my rifles. Dec 31, 2011 · 4 vs 5R Bartlein. Oct 4, 2022 · Most M14 gunsmiths only want to do final chamber reaming, sometimes with a pull-through reamer. They were both 20" varmint . I've got two Krieger's and one Rock and all of them have been shooters. I know there are many good barrels, these are just the ones I selected as a result of availability. I'm planning to buy a pre-fit from Southern Precision Rifles in 6mm Creedmoor. Final chamber polishing is important given the rotating M1/M14 bolt extraction process requires a smooth chamber, and this seems to be a non-trivial problem for new barrels, including my last Krieger heavy SS barrel. I’m still hesitant on bartlein due to Oct 17, 2013 · I have two 30/375 S. Krieger barrels on several R700 bolt guns in . The contours shown are for Bartlein barrels. I know the ammo is capable of that in an ideal situation, but 4 MOA from it is a bit of a head scratcher when others with the same rifle (SAI Loaded's and National Matches) are shooting it in the 2-2. The Ballistic Advantage barrel that I'm really happy with is a 6. PHENOMENAL! May 9, 2015 · Now 4340 is better for barrel life and harder bullets. Some of these are not spun up yet, most are. I posted on here about it asking if anyone had seen or heard any issues. All shoot half MOA. I didn’t pay any extra or recall that being an option. 56 needs all the velocity it can get to give energy transfer and bullet expansion. All barrels are dialed in and chambered on a manual lathe, no CNC Feb 6, 2022 · Button barrels have to have at least one more stress relieving step than do cut barrels (Krieger does an additional cryogenic stress releiving step I understand). Consistent sub MOA all day long for 5 shot groups. Oct 15, 2013 · 6. Feb 14, 2017 · For my precision gas rifles I have Craddock, CLE and Proof Research Barrels all of which are single point cut rifled barrels when CLE and Craddock use Bartlein or Krieger blanks. Jan 10, 2020 · If you look at most equipment lists of the top scoring competitors at most national level competitions, probably 50-75% are using Bartlein barrels. 5-7LRM. Walther barrels are harder so they might last longer but I'd place my bet on Krieger for accuracy. Also, some shops selling barrels AND pre-fits only handle Tier 1 barrels , "bugholes"being one. Our company is now completely independent from Krieger Barrels, featuring a separate facility, personnel, and ownership. Jun 26, 2019 · morning, Karen and her master gunsmith husband run hart barrels. To Sheldon N's point - For PRS, skill dwarfs the subtle differences in barrels 99. 20 shank and the bartlein 1. 5 x 47 rifle for non-competition paper punching. Pushed a wet patch then dry patchs through the new barrel to make sure the bore was clean. Bartlein is the way to go. Not benchrest, not in a mechanical rest/test fixture, etc. I don't know what barrel David Bailey was shooting but I think it might be a Brux, too. I have and will continue to use both. Mar 26, 2022 · MW barrels shoot lights fucking out. 7" Krieger AR service rifles, have a couple Tooley Bartleins for my AIAX, a Kreiger 300wm from RW Snyder. Apr 26, 2011 · Re: Shilen accuracy: Select Match Grade vs Match Grade Ive used 9 barrel blanks from Shilen. I shoot with 4 guys running there barrels, and I own 4 of them as well (1 unchambered currently/rimfire barrel) and they have been some of the best barrels I’ve ever seen. My experience with these light contours is that one MOA 5-shot groups is what they are consistently capable of, even if being very careful to not let the barrel get hot. My preference is for Bartlein, but that's more because I can randomly harass Frank G on this forum and get a response. Oct 28, 2023 · I read it, thanks. Wade, who was still with Surgeon at the time, said he liked them and that was good enough for me. Nov 14, 2014 · The contours shown are for Bartlein barrels. Oct 1, 2020 · Both barrels are as close as possible to the same twist, Bartlein sent me a 1:11. 308. I’m hoping to achieve sub MOA accuracy and to have the rifle be reliable. Krieger, Hart, Shillen, proof, benchmark, Brux All of the top name barrels I have had in button and rifle cut shoot great, clean easy, and wear well. They were wrong. Krieger also does AR barrels. I was hoping for some feedback on the ones listed above. Any input good or bad on either would be appreciated One comment made about so what Bartlein and Krieger own benchrest etc Besides those matches take a look at the European F-Class Championships shot late last year in the U. Javascript is required. I would say they were in this order of how they shot: Krieger/Bartlein Benchmark/Green Mountain Lilja The Krieger and Bartlein shot about the same with the Krieger edging out the Bartlein on that day with that ammo slightly at Having said all that, I personally am a fan of either Krieger or Bartlein. Bartlein has the gain twist and left hand stuff cornered. If memory serves me right 9 out of the top 10 guns in the F-Class Open had a cut rifled barrel on them. After doing a lot of reading on the various forums, I have come to the conclusion that the LaRue is considered one of the most accurate of the cheaper barrels (especially while they are on sale) while the Bartlein or Krieger are considered two of Oct 3, 2020 · I just want to clear a few things up based on some comments, etc. was founded in 1999 as a division of Krieger Barrels, Inc. 7 twist with matching bolt from Compass Lake Engineering. and an identical rifle with a cut rifled barrel from Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, etc. I think that the 308 barrel is a Bartlein and the 6. What is everyone’s experiences with those two barrels May 28, 2013 · If I'm in the mood for a single point cut barrel Krieger has been my "go to" and if a button rifled barrel or I want one really fast Hart is my default but having had multiple conversations with Frank Green of Bartlein barrels and him taking the time to answer with depth any and all questions I come up with, my next barrel will be a Bartlein barrel and it likely will be in their new 400MODBB May 19, 2020 · I keep saying this with each barrel, but more so now then ever, I cannot wait to shoot this Bartlein at 100yds!! Since everyone always asks, this Bartlein is the same exact barrel specs as all the others tested. bsqn detmaia kwl ugkhq tvawi ugcox dlvpglvi bxovd bwfodrx aupzu wkey rntccp zdcjycn fqpsgdwxb micpv
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