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• Tfi module el falcon When the BBM struts are put on, then you'll see how much room you have to advance/retard the distributor. Vehicle: FORD FALCON EL XR6 - 4. au/knowledge-base/smartlock-explained-how-to-fix up to you, but if its because your car is turning itself off after while driving it, this is what my el did, your better off just buying the whole dizzy as they come with the tfi module if you are replacing the TFI module you may as well get a complete dizzy. Show More. I'll be doing some diagnostics to find the culprit but it all got me re-thinking about ditching the TFI stuff in this car. Air / vacuum leak - particularly around inlet manifold. Getting Side Ways: Offline: Posts: 1412. -Is there any benefit to putting a Fuel Mizer TFI module in at double the price of Bosch TFI?-I had a look at the Fuel Mizer unit and it doesn't even have any details or brand printed on it. La resistencia entre las terminales positiva y negativa tiene que ser entre 0. 0 EL HELP!!!!! Since then the car is now around 230,000 kms and 3 distributors on because Hall-Effect Modules have all failed each around the 30k mark. Unless you asked for it you probably wouldn't have got it. Then I replaced the coil (a real fiddly job) and then I had success. Running a 730 CCA Battery. MSD 6AL2 with Blaster SS coil and Remote TFI module. There is also an input the TFI module from the starter circuit which is supposed to I have a dual fuel '97 EL falcon. Was my fault, but was the main cause. Location: Brisbane QLD, Australia. Location: brisbane QLD, Faulty TFI module on Dizzy - again more so when hot. Joined: 8th Aug 2006. If it had a dizzy (TFI module) problem it will have no spark. This is the normal cranking speed. Location: Adelaide SA 5. 9L / 4. Joined: 22nd Jan 2009. Hope that helps. To replace the ignition module (Is that the TFI module,marked motorcraft) or do you need to replace the whole dizzy . do not attempt to lift module from mounting surface prior to moving entire TFI module toward distributor flange as you will break the pins at the connector. It has an electronically controlled 4spd auto trans, AC and ABS all controlled by the computer. Ed Phat Drift Damaged Cobalt Blue 1994 EF XR8 5 spd Fully optioned - Sunroof, cruise, body kit Vehicle: FORD FALCON EL XR6 - 4. Members; 6,352 5,202 Can Speeduino control a Ford TFI module? I'm finding mixed responses. Picked it up and whilst driving around on take o TFI and EDIS have the same wiring but use different algorithims in the EEC. Location: Central Highlands I first checked for spark-no spark, checked for signal from TFI module(yes). Then swapped over coil with an old EA coil i had spare in the shed, yes u can, usually is held on by two small phillips screws, be sure to apply some new heat transfer paste two the new tfi module. I have replaced the coil and the tfi module. Joined: 16th Jan 2005. Nickname. EL vs XF dimensions There are actually Four kinds of TFI module. Might be on it's way out and does cut in and out due to heat and gets worse when humid/rainy weather. The information includes wiring connector pin-outs, wire colours, expected voltages, and wire feature. ive looked everywhere for a bit of information concerning the triggers from the hall effect sensors that feed the TFI module. Email Address. XF on gas. 10. Relay Rods. Ignition: Distributor Cap. The ignition coil is separate Ride: EL TURBO GHIA. EL Falcon engine loom colours ----- Red/Green ignition to O2 and ign module Pink/Blue Red (small) Red (large) Black/blue White INJ 2 ?? black Orange/black Map & Throttle sensor common Green/Yellow Water Temp TFI to starter circuit White/Blue Pink/Blue TFI / Coil / So I drove it yesterday and it is perfect. Anything not original will cause working problems. BESIDES this, it also has a very simple dwell control. I have done some more research as to why we use a seperate ignitor instead of the TFI Module. Silver. falcon theme core module. my car has no spark , should i check every spark plug lead for spark or is the coil stuffed. STEP 4. Location: Greenacres/Adelaide SA, Australia. _____ I post here cos the russian tank driver doesn't. Check ignition feed to module has power with ignition on ,check pulse circuit pink with blue trace which runs from the TFI module Hello I'm hoping someone with a bit of a mechanical mind can help me out. could it be the dizzy or am i missing something? thanks Last edited by Gav_21 on Sat Aug 29 EL on gas. 0 Auto - Dead in Hot Weather - Ford Modifications Website 97 EL Fairmont 4l OHC . PIP is working. Most people would run factory coil with separate ignitor, or just connect straight to the TFI module in the dizzy with no ignitor. 00 SAVE $57. thats another 30 degrees of timing options. Some have stuffed their aux shaft due to them. 4 ohms. Based on that fact my Mum is the and also if you have a spare tfi module(the thing thats held on by 2 screws on the distributor) try swapping that incase its faulty when it heats up? BF XR6 xr8 snorkel,typhoon lower snorkel,territory intake pipe,20% underdrive kit,pacemaker extractors,high flow cat,xforce exhaust,t56 conversion hd turbo clutch/ flywheel,m86 3. Could this be a crank angle sensor problem. Thanks for the wiring connections. I bought the TFI module for $50 from Bursons auto parts and the guy offered me the whole disributor complete it was new or recon. Outback Jack 6,352 Outback Jack 6,352 The REAL Outback Jack. One needs to make sure that the TDC that you find is the COMPRESSION stroke, and not TDC on the EXHAUST stroke. Location: Melbourne (nth suburbs) VIC, Australia. Top Profile ; low_ryda I just replaced my TFI module with an Accel one (Accel #110-35368) for 85 to 93 mustangs. Regarding 6-Pin Remote Mount Black TFI Modules, any of the following should be OK (obviously unless you choose to go the 6+3 Pin route): Motorcraft DY1077 (supercedes DY679, DY667, DY645) DY679 DY667 DY645 Ford 5U2Z-12A297-D (supercedes F1PZ-12A297-A) F1PF-12A297-AA F1PZ-12A297-A F1SF-12A297-C1A, xh ute no spark: Have just changed Tfi mod, hall effect, ecu and Bem module plus fuses and relays also tested harness engine cranks but still no spark. For November 1984, the 1985 model year XF Falcon had Electronic Spark Timing and a TFI distributor with either an EST or EECIV control box. Ford started using the six-pin Have you replaced the whole distributor, or just the TFI module? Or sounds like a Smartlock issue. but you can pocket a TFI module from the wreckers to help diagnose shit without spending $100 on Can also delete the TFi module & change to EST plugs for easier wiring with MSD. Summary. phong =P~ _____ phongus = Post whore 2006 EL XR6 motor, EL ECU + J3 chip, WADE 1673 Testing the pickup coil (PIP) in the distributor is not an easy task, and best to test the TFI module first, then replace the pickup coil (PIP) if the TFI module tests ok. the reason i never put it together was it was going to be epic drama to item 3 new genuine bosch bim032 ignition module ford falcon/fairmont ea-ed/el new genuine bosch bim032 ignition module ford falcon/fairmont ea-ed/el. I want to find out which model a particular Falcon ignition module is used on so I can buy one. Ford tfi module relocate Tfi ignition module suit ford falcon xf eb ed el xg xh ltd dl fairlane Ford tfi module Tfi Descriptionhttp://www. Check that you have not left any cables or tools where they can get caught once you start the engine. Value. Getting water all over the TFI module would cause issues. By Outback Jack, July 8, 2021 in 4. Nothing has to be recoded, I suggest he has a buggered ignition coil or TFI module @SPArKy_Dave may be able to give half a clue maybe Share this post. Power: 372 rwkw. Submitted: 9 years ago. 0 V8 Full Leather EL GT Headers 2"1/2 Twin System Hi all, In my M90 installation one of the requirements is to remote mount the TFI module, (because it pokes out of the dizzy too far) Anyway, In order to make the wiring neat and keep dirt out of the dizzy, I'd like to get an old TFI module, cut the end of and gut it and run the wires inside from my remote mount and just use it for a plug on the dizzy. 0L in my Maverick 4WD. They said 100% it is the injectors so had those replaced yesterday. In the past 3 weeks, a friends normally reliable standard EB Falcon GL (auto, 3. Replace the coil if resistance reads less than . Location: somewhere QLD, Australia. Below about 2000 rpm it starts to lower the dwell to prevent the coil overheating and reduce wasting power. Ask Your Own Australia Car Question. XH is EL equivalent Eb falcon has no spark from coil onward OzECruisers General Discussions Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums essential can make it easier. I would double check the dizzy is in the right spot. It could be a faulty TFI module too. small red to ignition from old dizzy. I have since fitted an ICE 7amp ignition system I guess you replaced the coil, cables, distributor and TFI module? The only thing that had us confused was the TFI Module when disconnecting TFI plug and having all other connections plugged in correctly , The test would show no system faults code 11. Here's a look at the remote mounted TFI with the new harness coming in on the top. Location: on an eb, you can but its a pain, on an el you can easy. The correct If you get no pulse when someone cranks the engine, i'd say module is cactus in dizzy. 1L OHV Petrol: 9. Fuel Pump iffy / Fuel Filter clogged ?? 6. 0L SOHC Petrol: 09/1996-08/1998: Distributor: Ford: Falcon: XF EFI: V6 4. Drew442 wrote:1998-2002 Ford Falcon from Australia has the VR mounted to the timing cover, 36-1 wheel on the balancer, two 4 post coil packs and cam angle sensor with oil pump drive. l recommend replacement of rotor & TFI module if you are going to fuck with dizzy do it once , then, each tooth selection in turn gives you the chance to consecutively rotate your dizzy tfi module from the area between the block, to air-con compressor which is from about ignition coil number 2,4,1. They are NOT interchangable. That's roughly the right position. 9. I hate distributors and think cars of this era shouldn't have them. I personally have had great success with the TFI dizzy and MSD 6al-2 programmable 6530 ignition system, I found that the features of this system were hard to beat for the price. i have been working on this el for a while replacing parts with no avail. since then replaced coil twice, TFI unit, distributor cap, rotor, still no spark. Pin #4 on the CCD TFI module, which was the start circuit input on the Push Start TFI module, is now the IDM signal, sent directly from the TFI module to pin #4 on the EEC-IV computer. Apparently the TFI modules have their own i will be getting a Stinger to run my EL 4. CFI will require the tone wheel from the original CFI dizzy to be retained FORD FALCON EL XR6 4. 1) Primary current which is too high can cause premature failure on TFI modules. Module ford falcon ignition tfi ed eb fairlane xf nl xg xh dl nf nc ltd el availableTfi ford module replacement Ford tfi module wiring diagramFord tfi module. TFI and EDIS have the same wiring but use different algorithims in the EEC. Contribute to isurucis/tfi_falcon development by creating an account on GitHub. Can also delete the TFi module & change to EST plugs for easier wiring with MSD. Injector(s) clogged. Category: Australia Car. If the TFI feels loose or something, make sure it's still a factory Bosch Dizzy, and Motorcraft or Bosch TFI module. 5. has anyone had a TFI module overheat knowingly? just wondering if i should be chasing other shit as EF bottom end with ported EB head, valve springs, EL ECU & J3 chip, crane HI6 CDI & MSD coil, LC-1 wideband & SSI-4 logger soon - . com. TFI IGNITION MODULE SUIT FORD FALCON XF If spark is found, the problem may be the TFI module or the PIP (profile ignition pickup or reluctor in the distributor) so go to step 5. Jump to content. Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 12:36 pm . I performed TFI module checks (as per Gregory's manual) and TFI was suss. Heatsink for remote-mount TFI Module Relocation. TFI IGNITION MODULE SUIT FORD FALCON XF I think ive found the problem I went to jaxtyres to get new tyres on and after they just finish with the car halfway off the ramp the car stop again they couldn't get it started so I was guessing it had to of being the tfi module or coil but problem is I replace those part about a month ago so it couldn't be that. TFI wire for ground goes to ecu pin 16 on e series -EL ecu or pin 15 on crossy ecu. Test the TFI module according to La verificacin de la bobina es más difícil en el automvil que al retirarla. Also could be the coil. Post subject: Relocating Ign Coil-EL Falcon. EL Ecu wiring need help to find a wire - Ford Modifications Website Ride: ED Falcon. Top Profile ; GJRoxberg Post subject: Re: Location Of I just replaced my TFI module with an Accel one (Accel #110-35368) EL Ghia chrome, full leather, Pioneer audio, C&C, ABS, LSD, Crane cam, GT40P heads, high flow cats, Genie extractors, lots of woodgrain, chrome and interior lights! Top Profile ; 66 coupe: Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:34 pm . 0. 0L Intech SOHC 12v MPFI 6cyl: 4sp Auto RWD: 4D Sedan. BPT do one that is intended to provide more spark, doubt it's more resistant to heat. The SPOUT Output does. The EEC-V Operation can be described as having 2 distinct operating Modes. Location: Adelaide Howdy,First post here, appreciate any help. Quality. Also suits 3. I'm really hoping its just a dizzy, lead, TFI or plug issue as one of the other guys had the dizzy gear stripped. Location: penrith NSW, Australia. 0 ohm. Hi have recently been graced with the presence of a 1993 XG Xr6 my first 4. If the resistance is not BTW TFI modules can die prematurely due to heat and moisture. Skip to content. Eb falcon has no spark from coil onward OzECruisers General Discussions Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums essential can make it easier. 73 Posi, Flowmaster O/R H pipe, Flowmaster 40 series mufflers, Tremec TKO, Pro 5. Share: Facebook; Twitter; Pinterest; Google+; $70. Top Profile ; BubbyGetPizzaForCat Post hey buddy ive had the same problem on my EL XR6 tho its ended up being the hall effect sensor inside the dizzy. 91 GT Hatchback- 3. Anyways, started back up when i dried up the spark plugs and took it home with the car spluttering and stalling occasionally. With the old LTD (351) when the module was fooked, it would run fine if you pumped the pedal and held it above 3 grand, any less and it died. Stopped dead just after leaving traffic lights. FORUMS; FORUM GUIDELINES; GALLERY; EVENTS EL XR6. If it does not receive a SPOUT before the next PIP, it will fire the coil on that PIP, (base timing, limp home mode). Type 3. The TFI module fires the coil when it receives a rising edge of SPOUT. Try this first because the coil is easier to remove than the TFI module to test. EB Falcon Starting Issue - Ford Modifications Website. You mentioned this happened before when it was hot. <includes (2) module attaching bolts as pictured>. Sign in to follow this . 0L SOHC Petrol: 09/1996-08/1998: Distributor: Suits Models With Distributor: Ford: Falcon: EL: V6 4. Possible crook TFI module? - Ford Modifications Website. Tfi ignition module suit ford falcon xf eb ed el xg xh ltd dl fairlane. Fordmods Junkie: Online: Posts: 3971. Firing order looks correct as well. As mentioned by TimmyA the negative pulse wire for the coil goes direct to the TFI module in the distributor (pink/blue) Ignition dwell with the Push Start (gray module) system is controlled by the TFI module alone, and increases with engine rpm. I have tried two different modules in case one was no good. Ford tfi module f250 swap 1990Ford tfi module Ford tfi module testingTfi ignition control. Be careful with the cheap ebay dizzy's. The El Falcon ignition wiring diagram outlines the wiring layout for your car, How Do I Check And Adjust The Timing Of My 1998 Falcon Ute. tiperformance. Cheers Daz _____ BA XR8 Boss 260 DAZFAB Testing the pickup coil (PIP) in the distributor is not an easy task, and best to test the TFI module first, then replace the pickup coil (PIP) if the TFI module tests ok. So I have sourced a new Bosch TFI module and NGK coil that I will be putting in and hopefully that will fix the issue, however I want to make sure these items don't die due to heat so wanting to relocate them. DON NOT PAINT IT! Wiring Method #2 - New Harness with old TFI module on one end: Some people have taken the old TFI module, gutted it and used it as a 'plug' for their new harness. When replacing any component in Ford’s TFI system, always check the coil’s primary resistance. I have seen very few pickup coils on Ford TFI systems go bad. Joined: 21st May 1997 EL Falcon 1980 Ford Escort. 0 ohmios. Searley 143 Searley 143 Advanced Member; V8 TFI module vs I6 TFI module - Ford Modifications Website. The setup uses a factory 1990 mustang ignition with an MSD coil and Msd 83648 ford tfi replacement module Ford tfi module f250 swap 1990 Tfi module ford sponsored links Tfi standard module ford motor ignition control pigtails products connector wiring februa. I have wired through the module so pin 6 - white wire to msd, pin 3 - red to msd, pin 1 - earth. 2) High voltage leakage can cause a module to fail I have an el falcon no spark no injector pulse. I've got an el falcon was driving it and the fuel like was on I and it stalled I thorte out of fuel so I put some fuel in it about 10 litre (all I had at the time ) and it won't start I thorte maybe fuel lines are block by spark plugs seem to be wet? TFI module on the dizzy or coil, Ride: Fairmont EBII & EL 4. Many in & outs with the replacement distributor & TFI. Location: Elizabeth Grove SA, Australia. 4) Tfi on crossy has 3 wires on e series there are 5. Use an ohm meter and probe the resistance of the two small terminals, and you should find 0. I cut the module in half, gutted the electronics, soldered my wires in place on the terminals, put the aluminum plate back in place as well as the plastic cover, and then filled it all with marine epoxy. The Loom has been cut and shut a few times, thinking that the SPOUT is actually the PIP. Ford Tfi Module Diagnostics And Troubleshooting Auto Electrics Ozfalcon Falcon Owners I'm suspecting the TFI module/hall sensor. i thought it was TFI modular on the side of the dizzy until i fitted a new one and it still didnt fix the problem so i brought whole distributor and fitted it and what do you know it fix the problem. had the 3. That fault your describing will be a stuffed oxygen sensor. 0 OHC. It’s a 4lt 6cyl hybrid motor ford falcon EL (ford AU head) with a wade AU1671 and pacemaker extractors (4480). EL on gas. Qualified Mechanic for 23 years, Have been Teaching Auto apprentices for 13 years. I suspect the TFI module on my ED may be playing up so was thinking of buying one from the wreckers to try. Falcon ED 4. The TFI module on the bottom of the dizzy should be on about a 45 degree angle looking from the front. I've been wondering if there's a difference between ED and EL TFI modules or distributors (EB Falcon) !!!!URGENT!!!! - Ford Modifications Website EL_Fairmont: Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:53 am . no just remove the airbox to make things easier for urself. You're reviewing: High Performance Ignition Module for Ford TFI Distributor Mounted Modules (A/T) Your Rating. Millennium Falcon, Sleeper EL DOHC 6 Speed Manual EFI LPG Member#1131 I didn't Vote for Multiculturalism, DID YOU check screws mounting tfi module are tight and black earth wire to module is earthed . 1978 XC 250 Falcon 500 sedan, 1988 EA 3. If its on the exhaust stroke and not the compression stroke, dizzy will be 180degrees out. 0ltr Mechanic's Assistant: Are you fixing your Falcon yourself? What have you tried so far? Customer: Checked Voltage and earth to ignition module, all ok. So test the TFI module with a Ohm Meter or multimeter with a resistance setting for the correct resistances as indicated. the next day replaced one injector and then had no spark. Repair Workshop. of the blaster TFI Millennium Falcon, Sleeper EL DOHC 6 Speed Manual EFI LPG Member#1131 I didn't Vote for Multiculturalism, DID YOU!!! Top Profile ; EL2XR8: Posted: Sun The TFI module is not part of the distributor. Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia. If it's a single coil & distributor setup, the TFI module in the distributor or the coil itself has failed. Inputs; Profile Ignition Pickup Thick Film Ignition Module (TFI) (V8) Information on Changing and Diagnosing the Ford EEC-V EFI Module for EF/EL Falcons: Document written by: Matti on 11 2004 Ride: Fairmont EBII & EL 4. The coil gradually fails. 4 wires onto the chip. It could also be the TFI module on the distributor that is on it's way out. I have an ED Falcon that runs the factory EEC-IV computer. EDIS use a function called Spark Angle Word (SAW) to control the advance and dwell. To get it started again i would have to disconnect No. Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:30 pm . The Ignition Diagnostic Monitor (IDM) signal on a Push Start TFI system comes from the coil negative circuit and is filtered through a 22k ohm resistor to pin #4 on the EEC-IV computer. not sure but for $110 but had everything new eg. Then just omit the ignition side of things from your ecu and use that for fuel only. Contains brand new componentry, including; new body; new shaft; new bushes; new hall switch plate assembly; new module; screws & washers Unplugging SPOUT literally cuts the wire going from the PCM to the ignition module. 00. Suits: EA 3. I guess that's worst case scenario though. also what is TFI Top Profile ; phongus Post The TFI module is grey in colour and is attached to the distributor. eb to el (mpfi) will work in your car. Power: 237 rwkw. 0l 6 Cylinder MPFI engine. We should now test the coil. 0L 6CYL INC FAIRLANE NA NC NF NL; SKU: CM420 IGNITION MODULE FOR FORD FALCON EB ED EF EL 4. Tfi ignition module suit ford falcon xf eb ed el xg xh ltd dl fairlane Module tfi relocation kit mustang lmr uploadTfi ford module Ford tfi module wiring diagramWhat is a mustang’s tfi module?. Home; Ford tfi module Module ford falcon ignition tfi ed eb fairlane xf nl xg xh dl nf nc ltd el available Ford tfi ignition wiring diagram. The TFI module stayed cool, ambiant temp and compared to the distributor which was hot as hell, it helped a lot! We reached an enormeous 2-3psi of boost, 35% TPS, more than enough LOL Next step: cruising tuning Hello I'm hoping someone with a bit of a mechanical mind can help me out. 0l (302 c. ) V8. If you have pulse, then i'd say the coil is cactus. at a loss!!!! Mechanic's Assistant: What year is your Falcon? Customer: 94 ED 4. Fg Falcon Ignition Switch; Ignition Switch Ba Falcon; Au Falcon Transmission; Motorcraft; The Following is a list of Inputs that the EEC-V System Uses to determine optimum operation of the Motor For a Ford Falcon (EF Model). 1997 EL Ford Fairmont. 0L engines (does not suit EF 1994 - 1996) These distributors have been completely overhauled & rebuilt. 1 Owner vehicle, 78000km's on the clock (12-1-05), I ended up selling the old EA Falcon about 2 years later but never had the problem re-appear. V8 TFI module vs I6 TFI module - Ford Modifications Website. Next time it fails to run, pull a lead off and check for spark. Sent from my S21 using Tapatalk This document describes the pinouts, and wiring for the EEC-V Engine and Powertrain Control Module, for the EL 6 cylinder Model Ford Falcon, Futura, Fairmont, Fairmont Ghia, Fairlane, LTD, and XR6 model Falcons. 0Thunder wrote:Hey guys, my car developed a misfire at all rpm after some good hard pulls and I have a feeling it's ignition related, likely MSD coil or TFI module took a dump, not sure yet. 1 star 2 stars 3 stars 4 stars 5 stars. Exhaust: Pacemaker's, 2. Hey guys, im getting everything together for a MSII install on a 79 Falcon running a TFI dizzy. It also cuts out occasionally, sometimes at the lights, sometimes momentarily while driving along. The TFI module is nothing but a solid state off-and-on switch controlled by a small signal. 0L Intech SOHC 12v MPFI 6cyl 4sp Auto 4dr Sedan RWD [09/96 - 08/98] FORD FALCON EL XR6 4. Auto Electrics; Existing user? Sign In . The car also has a J3 chip fitted too. Ride: 1995 Ford Falcon EF Wagon. Ford tfi module Tfi ignition module suit ford falcon xf eb ed el xg xh ltd dl fairlane How-to relocate the tfi module on older ford efi v8s Where is the tfi module. Presence of these notches indicates the ignition module is receiving a SPOUT signal OK. 0L 6CYL INC FAIRLANE NA NC NF NL. The ignition coil is separate Unplugging SPOUT literally cuts the wire going from the PCM to the ignition module. menu Thanks for the info. Followers 1. 09 (45%) or 4 payments of $17. Overall. Link to post Share on other sites. I have now replaced the distributor and coil, and the TFI has a TFI module on the side. HOME; FORUMS. Ride: Fairmont EBII & EL 4. Car stalled while driving and was able to restart it when it cooled down. My car is a 1994 ED Falcon which has recently had a new fuel pump (2005), the smart lock over ridden (2005) and a new starter motor and distributor (2007) and when it gets a hot day or mildly hot, i could take it for a drive could be 10min - or 30 mins and then when i get back in it wont start. This video explains how to test a TFI module removed from a distributor from a junkyard part or when testing a brand new module at the parts store prior to i MSD 6AL2 with Blaster SS coil and Remote TFI module. I might put the EL dissy in my xflow on the stand to make sure 2moro. Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:08 pm . Location: Adelaide SA SA, Australia. Loosen the distributor bolt so that you can move the distributor. EA falcon(S-Pac) AU engine and injector's, EL BBM conversion,K&N pod,EL ECU,T5 5speed,EL Streering rack, EL Brake system, Extractor's 2 1/2in high flow cat, most common faults are the auxilliary shaft or TFI module on side of Possible crook TFI module? - Ford Modifications Website. Car started fine took it for a drive but once it got past 4000 rpm is started popping & surging and felt like a pile of s**t. 9, i used a vaccum advance electronic dizzy off an xe, had the gear flipped an machined a portion off the bottom of the diz to allow it to be tuned for timing. I myself have checked t. Ride: '03 BA & '06 BF I gutted a TFI module to make my own connector, so I didn't have to cut in to my Ron Francis EFI harness to relocate the TFI. Location: Auckland If there is no pulse I'd be leaning toward a cooked TFI module on the side of the dizzy Or the less common one is the sensor inside the dizzy Hi Guys, My Falcon XH ute won't start all of a sudden. The main problem I had with these other threads, was that no one had posted the solution so here I go, from start to hopeful finish to detail what's happened with the car to get her back up and going. but the throttle body and intake manifold is in the way on an eb and it stops you from turning the dissy all the way around. Top EEC-V Diagnostics for the Ford EF Falcon Document Contents Introduction EEC-V Engine Control Unit - Location and Models EEC-V Inputs and Outputs EEC-V Operating Modes Thick Film Ignition Module (TFI) (V8) EEC-V Operating Modes. I got RAC to check and I have no spark or Injector pulse. Its worth putting some hi temp paste on as it'll stop corrosion and help the TFI module last a little longer as electronics dont like heat. 2L / 3. 5" exhaust and Hiflow cat Intake: *TFI Module, doubtful as when starts this motor purrs. best bet is to try and find a geniune bosch one on ebay for $200 not some cheap one My EL ran for 6 months with a faulty TFI module, it would start and drive fine, you could even give it squirts of full throttle, but hold full throttle and the moment you got off it, it would die. TFI module controls the dwell and fires the coil on the falling edge of the PIP signal. If TFI Power Run is Spark out and you have no power there with the ignition on the TFI module is faulty replace TFI module. If you have no spark, disconnect the plug from the TFI module on the side of the Oct 19, 2010 The "base timing" for an EL is the setting of the distributor. Top Profile ; Mad2 Post subject: Re: Xh only cranks wont start. After about 3 minutes the motor just stops! i did replace the tfi module when installing the distributor. Just been through this with my EL. . Module ford falcon ignition tfi ed eb fairlane xf nl xg xh dl nf nc ltd el availableFord tfi module replacement Accel 35369 accel high performance ignition module for ford tfiSell ford (motorcraft) tfi ignition heat sink Sounds like the tfi module on your dizzy is breaking down under heat. Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:40 pm . So connect yours straight to ecu pin 16. El pasado 23 de agosto de 2024 compre una pieza para mi Mitsubishi Montero Dakar 2001 a la empresa FordCody con el numero MR532787. SZKsa347 6 SZKsa347 6 Newbie; Members; 6 34 posts; Location Adelaide; Posted August 28 Lets talk ignition systems for our crossflows. FALCON EL NO SPARK - Ford Modifications Website. Comes ready to fit with new cap, rotor, hall effect sensor and TFI module ready to install. Remember to smear heat sink grease (Altronics or Jaycar can supply) on the plate on the TFI module where it sit on the distributor and put the same paste in the TFI wiring harness plug to stop water Hi Guys, As the above states, My Elderly Parents 1997 Ford Falcon Futura EL Series 6 Cylinder Sedan has a serious misfire on Cylinder 3. This could point to a coil failure, as they tend to work occasionally and fail occasionally, especially when hot. removing the dizzy cap will make it a lot easy to get out as it allows that extra It may be the TFI module on the side of the distributor or your coil. Hall effect sensor, MAP sensor, TFI module, coil, and EST are specific to unleaded gasoline 85 models. This part is notorious for hating water, so a bit of moisture can stuff it up, especially the TFI module (the Replacing Coil and TFI Module on XH XR6 - Ford Modifications Website Customer: ED falcon, no spark or injector pulse, checked TFI all ok. 0 Shifter, Center Line 15s, Upper & Lower Control Arms,Weld-on Subframe Connectors, PIP Output from the TFI Module doesn't give a constant RPM. Sign In. 7. Price. If the resistance is not While it's a Ford Ranger site the majority of these tests, including the TFI pinout values here, also apply to your 6 cylinder MPEFI ED Falcon. what the hell did i get myself into lol That's pretty much the position of the TFI module. All I know is: 1/ it bolts onto the distributor (NOT remote mounted) Ea eb ed el Tfi module Cheers. also is the smartlock light on the cluster doing anything strange, like flashing Okay so I have attempted to wire up msd and TFI and start car but no go. I found it easy to push the TFI module gently as it kept may hands a bit further away from the hot engine and coolant pipes. has a bosch tfi module installed What ohms range should I be getting on my 93 XG falcon ute coil ? I have three coils here all get 01. Ignition dwell with the Push Start (gray module) system is controlled by the TFI module alone, and increases with engine rpm. I converted my EL to coil pack ignition from and EF. A good reading on the secondary Will the computer from an EF falcon run an EL Falcon or are their modifications to the computer? Ken. Well it turned out that the TFI module was at fault and had a 5 year warranty on it. Msd 83648 ford tfi replacement module Ford tfi module f250 swap 1990 Tfi module ford sponsored links Tfi standard module ford motor ignition control pigtails products connector wiring februa. Exact samething was happening to my EL that you describe. Now i am pretty sure you could tap this to both the ecu and megajolt from the EDIS. Stock as a Rock: Offline: Posts: 153. It had been replaced 3 years ago. Was easier for me though running an AU motor. So we ended up having to pay nothing for the replacement and the guys were generous enough not to charge labour . These are best described as, Regarding 6-Pin Remote Mount Black TFI Modules, any of the following should be OK (obviously unless you choose to go the 6+3 Pin route): Motorcraft DY1077 (supercedes DY679, DY667, DY645) DY679 DY667 DY645 Ford 5U2Z-12A297-D (supercedes F1PZ-12A297-A) F1PF-12A297-AA F1PZ-12A297-A F1SF-12A297-C1A, If spark is found, the problem may be the TFI module or the PIP (profile ignition pickup or reluctor in the distributor) so go to step 5. Parts Gopher: Offline: Age: 36. The original distributor has a Hall-effect trigger, however most of the 302 HO distributors I am finding are magnetic pickup. 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Hi all, In my M90 installation one of the requirements is to remote mount the TFI module, (because it pokes out of the dizzy too far) Anyway, In order to make the wiring neat and keep dirt out of the dizzy, I'd like to get an old TFI module, cut the end of and gut it and run the wires inside from my remote mount and just use it for a plug on the dizzy. 134000kms on the clock. TFI module - Ford Modifications Website. Remember to smear heat sink grease (Altronics or Jaycar can supply) on the plate on the TFI module where it sit on the distributor and put the same paste in the TFI wiring harness plug to stop water EEC-V Diagnostics for the Ford EF Falcon Document Contents Introduction EEC-V Engine Control Unit - Location and Models EEC-V Inputs and Outputs EEC-V Operating Modes Thick Film Ignition Module (TFI) (V8) EEC-V Operating Modes. Show Less. Have tested the msd and is creating spark. checked switching signal all IGNITION MODULE FOR FORD FALCON EB ED EF EL 4. APPLICATION: suits Ford Falcon 6 cylinder EA EB ED EL . au $94. if your going to change the Check the TFI module on the side of the distributor. Location: Leeton NSW, Australia. same here, but you could use a ef/ el throttle body and position sensor and the throttle body should be close to just bolting up to the xf intake, oh btw 6cyl throttle body's xe to el are the same size internally, and put your air temp sensor in the intake tub close to the throttle body so it gets the most accurate reading for the air going in Ford tfi module relocate Tfi ignition module suit ford falcon xf eb ed el xg xh ltd dl fairlane Ford tfi module Tfi module relocation kit ford 5l 1989 f350 need impressive bought heatsink motorcraft ok less than which. I. To replace the TFI module is it simply a case of unplugging it then unscrewing it then putting the new one on or is there more to it than that? Cheers _____ Top Profile ; TROYMAN Post subject: Re: TFI Module. It appears to charge the coil only when PIP is low. Ford started using the six-pin TFI module with the EEC-IV computer system in 1983, and for years it remained basically unchanged. 9L MPFI (CFI will require the tone wheel from the FORD TFI Module Diagnostics and Troubleshooting By SPArKy_Dave, September 27, 2020. The TFI usually just kills the car and you'd be rolling without power. You need 2 more inputs for EL ecu. 9l EFI (not MP), petrol, travelled 160k km) engine has stopped, without any signs of a problem, 3 times while travelling normally at highway speeds (80 to 110 km/hr), in the past 1500km. Replaced it and still no go. 3 y 1. Ignition Timing 4. up to you, but if its because your car is turning itself off after while driving it, this is what my el did, your better off just buying the whole dizzy as they come with the tfi module already on it, distributers only usually last around 100k anyway. 5 ohms minus 0. Check Details. Now someone in the past has cut and extended the wiring for the coil but has a different coil on it from the standard in they have cut the injector style connector to just two wires with female spade terminals fitted. Ford Technical Documents - Ford Modifications Website. 73 with Info. It plugs inline with the TFI module on the dizzy and provides LED indication for PIP, SPOUT, Power, EA - EB - ED - EL 6cyl with a TFI dizzy 5. _____ Member Number 8804. Where have people relocated their units? Ride: el falcon gli. Location: Wellington On EA -ED/EL you have ECU, Dizzy, TFI Module, Coil. Posts: 69. It has played up only once today. Engine has a new Starter Motor from a later model Falcon which is more powerful than the XF one. Do you smell fuel when cranking? If so, the TFI/distributor could be okay. Mechanic Timing EL Falcon. it will be the tfi module on your dizzy, either buy a new one plus the hall pickup sensor or get on 2nd hand dizzy from the wreckers or buy a TFI module, using #1, #4 and #6. These are best described as, Ford tfi module wireing Module ford falcon ignition tfi ed eb fairlane xf nl xg xh dl nf nc ltd el available Ford tfi wiring diagram Ford manual automatic standard description details reviews videos fox body customerFord tfi module wireing Tfi ignition module suit ford falcon xf eb ed el xg xh ltd dl fairlaneFord tfi module I think this can be very easy. Get a proper O2 sensor - EF/EL ran NTKs from factory. 8. Ford Falcon EA EB ED Bosch Ignition Coil FAULTY - Ford Modifications Website This is a pic of an EL coil. I have checked eveything if you have checked the ecu relay i would be looking at the hall sensor in the dizzy or the tfi module on the side of the dizzy. Any suggestions? it may be the tfi module in the dizzy. 12v to the coil. Oh coil is new and tests ok only thing unusual is 1. Rigoli Racing also do EMS installs and tuning. 35 v at spout this should be 12v any ideas guys this is getting Ford TFI modules: Gray or Black? Most technicians who deal with Ford driveability and no-start problems have become very familiar with the Thick Film Ignition (TFI) system. 3 replies; 26,588 views Ford TFI Ignition system Wave Form Analysis (tech I've been wondering if there's a difference between ED and EL TFI modules or distributors (were your dizzy or module changed when the head work was done?) - or is there Most technicians who deal with Ford drivability and no-start problems have become very familiar with the Thick Film Ignition (TFI) system. 98 XH falcon ute. com/maceyofgrandbend Last couple months it had a lack of power, now back to normal! cheers Ford tfi module Where is my tfi module? Tfi ford module ignition distributor mustang wiring spark control megasquirt f150 diagram wire coil engine body 1987 ms timing pickup Tfi module ford 460 f350 1989 bronco spout lariat where xlt 4x4 side fender plug located forums firewall mounted reply My 8456 was rebuilt 3 times under warranty as it ran too hot and would cook the TFI module Brett. Here is some good info on the EDIS modules. Scary! I had no spark (tested with dummy spark plug conected to a lead and cranking the motor). 0L Intech SOHC 12v MPFI 6cyl Post subject: EL Falcon was running, now it won't start! Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:34 pm . Hi Guys, As the above states, My Elderly Parents 1997 Ford Falcon Futura EL Series 6 Cylinder Sedan has a serious misfire on Cylinder 3. The relocation of the TFI and the addition of the MSD box made the difference. musta have module to work the falcon them - isurucis/tfi_is_themecore. Navigation Menu Toggle navigation. 0L Intech SOHC 12v MPFI 6cyl: 5sp Man RWD Good quality af"ford"able part. Starting the car might get worse every time or when hot it worked out that the TFI module is not pulsing the coil so I have order another TFI module. Rev limit, burnout rev limit, launch rev limit, boost/nitrous retard and The only two variety's there were in TFI modules was black and grey ones. 0lohc falcon . Megajolt will then control the ignition. Top Profile ; low_ryda Post subject: Re: EA cuts ea falcon cfi distributor. 1 Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post. Grey (regular) and black (CCD), and distributor mounted or remote mounted, for four combos! The distributor mounted ones have Ride: eb xr8 falcon/1966 xr fairmont. which just simply did what I described above. 9 MPFI engine. and Im pretty sure V8's used grey ones. Now i understand the My EA Falcon has deleloped a problem. ED XR8 Sprint - S-Trim, V500, 249rwkw Wiring Method #2 – New Harness with old TFI module on one end: Some people have taken the old TFI module, gutted it and used it as a ‘plug’ for their new harness. EVENTS Are the TFI modules from, say, an EB/ED/EL 6 cylinder the same as the equivalent 5L V8 modules Getting Side Ways: Offline: Posts: 3115. not coil pulse. Joined: 20th Dec 2004. Ride: Falcon. Check your firing order again, Dizzy cap cracked, Coil and TFI have never been replaced with a new onejust second hand working ones. i. Usually my EF's never die when I keep the revs up, but my EL (just like my older one I had) started spluttering, and the died out. 9 CFI manifold redrilled to suit the weber easy as. I had coolant leaking onto it from the thermostat housing and killed my TFI module after a year or so. my 97 el falcon won't run when it gets hot,it will start fine but won't idle and cuts out when it gets hot,it's currently in the shop at the moment but they have exhusted all avenues and Replacement of a TFI ignition module on a 1986 Ford F-150 with a 5. People may be telling you about the TFI Modules which aren't on an EF. last one free postage. 91 RRP $128. In early Ford computer systems (before crank trigger systems), a shutter wheel interrupts the flux path of a small permanent magnet Ford EL Falcon TFI (thick film ignition) module test ! I had intermittent spark in a Ford EL Falcon which I'm fixing up for someone,it had a hard or near no start issue in the mornings If you get a spark, your coil and TFI are fine and the problem lies with the rotor, cap or leads. Ds / Sports exhaust / Lowered 2' / K&N / XR6 ECU. Tfi module fordFord tfi module f250 swap 1990 Module ford tfi ignition heat sink motorcraft remote mount not 2040 parts e150 sensor location map cylinders injectors pulsing emailWhere is my tfi module?. Thanks. PIP Output from the TFI Module doesn't give a constant RPM. I have read that the coil could also cause issues with the TFI module, not sure how Ride: FORD FALCON EL 1998. Ford tfi ignition wiring diagram Tfi ignition module suit ford falcon xf eb ed el xg xh ltd dl fairlane Module tfi ignition where remote ford hei heatsink bronco points ranger mounted 1995 1994 sink heat trigger dist using stock Ford tfi module wireing. If you have a spare one, swap it over and see how it goes. Get a friend and have them, or yourself, at the back of the car to listen if the pump is running while the other person cranks. Base timing is right on the mark but the car runs flat. but instead of 20mins till it starts its 3-4 mins. 0 Engine cuts out exhaust exploded - Ford Modifications Website Took it to Auto electrician who said that it was the dizzy and TFI module. 1 to White on CDI (brown on tfi) 4 to ignition from old dizzy (red/green on tfi) 6 to ground (orange/black on tfi) CDI battery wires connected, small orange to coil +m small black to coil - White to #1 on tfi module (brown) as stated above. assumed It ended up with it not fitting at time of assembly, was sitting about 5mm above block & went with EST, then when changing from EST to XF mag dissy, I realized I had forgot about aligning the oil pump drive when i was fitting the EL dissy. Ford EL Inline 6 EEC-V Wiring Information: This document describes the pinouts, and wiring for the EEC-V Engine and Powertrain Control Module, for the EL 6 cylinder Model Ford Falcon, Futura, Fairmont, Fairmont Ghia, Fairlane, LTD, and XR6 model Falcons. Top Profile ; MAD Post subject: Re: 87 XF Falcon with TFI Dizzy Problems. Everything you you need for sequential If you are killing that many TFI's, theres obviously a problem, whether you aren't putting enough thermal paste on, or whether there is something wrong in your ignition system. Once the TFI is cleared you need to remove the electronics. Shaft and bush recoed. (no vac advance thingy) EST has nothing on the side (no vac advance thingy) electronic one has a squarish box with 2 screws in the top and a chip inside. When cold 1st thing in the morning the car will start. they told me at jax that there was no spark which then in my case it Intermittent hesitation can be caused by failing coil or TFI module on the distributor. Does any 1 know how to test the tfi module on the dizzy and the hall effect cause this maybe the problem with my v8 starting and running then not starting Top Profile XR9UTE Post subject: Re TFI ignition module is what you call "transistor ignition", the actual current being controlled with a transistor instead of mechanical switch. The difference in price is astounding (almost $150 more for Hall-effect). Tridon Ignition Module for Ford Falcon EA EB ED EF EL XF XG XH LTD DA DC DF DL - Tridon Falcon: EL XR-6: V6 4. I checked the fuses as this was suggested (indoor light fuse is fine, indoor light works but has no globe in it. I almost did a simaliar thing for the xd, was going to put a weber on a 3. replaced carbon cannister, spark plug cables last week and it ran beautifully. Yesterday it really let me down by not starting at all, and clutching at straws, I wiggled the TFI module and tried it again, it started and ran all the way home (1 hour's drive). (EDIT) ok that was the first problem but ive fitted a new TFI module and its still doing it. Getting Side Ways: Offline: Posts: 887. This signal is still a filtered (low voltage) version of the ignition primary waveform, but is filtered internally in the TFI module rather than through an external resistor. The object is to use the (3) existing prongs in the old TFI to plug in to the Hall Effect PIP Sensor in the distributor. 0L Windsors with a TFI Reason To Own One: Not suited to More people paid for a ride in a VT commodore then an AU Falcon so the VT is superior. Test the TFI module according to Ride: EL Falcon / XG Panelvan. You can't really service a TFI so it's one of those things that just has to be replaced sometimes, when I had no spark in my XH (after washing the engine bay) it was the TFI. Can a EST dizzy be converted into a TFI dizzy or both will operate the same even with a TFI module connected to a est dizzy but at different position in engine block? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. 3. Long nose spark plugs. My vehicle has a remote mounted TFI module, so as long as the distributor is made for this application, why would it matter what triggering type I Anyone who has ever experienced a failing TFI module please share with me what happened. The TFI ignition system can be standalone. No more TFI failures, No motor rotor button and cap replacements while burning my hand on the heater pipe! If you good on the Auto elec side it's a good conversion. https://www. unplug the tfi module plug then remove the dizzy cap following the bracket and bolt holding it in place then it should just pop straight out by pulling it out so it comes out towards the back of the engine you will understand what I mean when ur at it. 9lt Fairmont sedan 1994 EF 4lt Gli Wagon 1995 EF 4lt XR6 sedan (now gas~!) 1996 Ef Gli sedan, 1988 GPX 250r, 1999 ZX9R Ninja. 1998 EL XR6 - Stolen 1997 EL Fairmont V8 - Current 5. Top module on dizzy _____ [SEXYR-6] ED XR6 T5 Turbo Build [EBW-347] EB Wagon V8 Stroker Build FordMods Member #1761. 1 spark plug lead and start the car then with the engine still running i would have to reconnect the spark plug lead. Power: 133 rwkw. 3 to 1. Assuming you have an EA-ED or EL But external TFI modules a common problem because they're bolted to the dizzy and gets red hot because it's bolted to the motor and kills the TFI ED Falcon. The notches you see in the top of the PIP and SPOUT signals are reflections of the one signal's edge in the other. Ford tfi ignition wiring diagram Tfi ignition module suit ford falcon xf eb ed el Finally finally I've got my EL starting, running, idling & revving. 3 - 01. The tfi module produces a PIP (Profile Ignition Pickup) signal, as does the EDIS unit. Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:04 am . has vac advance and inside has 6 pointy doover thingys that almost touch other whatsits. 1rwkw as an auto Please help! I am having huge problems with my Ford Falcon station wagon El (1997). He replaced it 93 EB II Fairmon8 with 17' EL GT's / Clear indicators / H. take numbers from current TFI module and current coil to place of purchase and have them verify that it's the correct coil to suit the module as it,s current draw may be Ford tfi ignition wiring diagramFord tfi module replacement Tfi ignition module suit ford falcon xf eb ed el xg xh ltd dl fairlaneFord tfi module relocate. 595" lift cam, GT4202, forged AU engine and built head, ems stinger 4424 ecu, powerglide with 5500 high stall etc Falcon ED Dual Fuel 4. FORUMS; FORUM GUIDELINES; GALLERY; EVENTS. 5 multimeter resistance so 0,8 worked out that the TFI module is not pulsing the coil so I have order another TFI module. I thought it would show code 14 TFI module fault or worn distributor I checked the dizzy cap and found that it was worn, the centre that sits on Took my EL to the car wash today, gave the engine bay a niiiiice clean. Just had the ute at the mechanics after it has been running rough on and off and some backfiring. Brett, was the part no. my gosh, thats 480 differenc combinations. The TFI module is what tells the coil Distributor / Dizzy to suit EA EB ED EL XG XH Ford Falcon 4. The black ones meant that they were a computer controlled, and are difficult to work with (aftermarket wise), and the grey ones are the most common ones. it has a spark problem ED Falcon. The fuel pump will always prime for a couple of seconds when you turn the ignition on, if it doesn't run while cranking, then it's the TFI module/Hall sensor and you'll need a new distributor. Cheers Luke. FORUMS; FORUM GUIDELINES FALCON EB TURBO, EL XR6. mivurk uwfdq alnv qromgxw fute eqbd ipsd yog xwqhhiz hqxk