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Wj front driveshaft swap Can I remove the driveshaft and not damage the QuadraDrive or the Vari-lok parts? Sorry forgot these details Its a 1999 with the 4. it was toast. I had to switch to a U-joint front driveshaft (found one from a ZJ and had it shortened to fit). If all goes well, it has to be ok. Install new t-case yoke and torque nut to 90-130 ft-lb. 7L V8 Hey everyone, I have an '04 Grand Cherokee with a Quadra-Trac II transfer case and I was wondering if there was any part I could install to disengage the front (or rear) driveshaft to make it a 2wd so I can put a larger suspenson lift on without the vibrations I hear people have. I lifted it with a 3" iro lift. I know I can get a carolina drivelines one for around $250. 2 , 2000 WJ 4. WJ TC swap This swap is for a V8 WJ's ONLY!! You can purchase a new front shaft from Tom Woods or a local drive line shop. Things to look out for: 1) Pinion output with the HP30 will now be a uni style joint, a new drive shaft will be required. Carolina Driveline makes a Jeep WJ specific front drivesha The issue at hand is what front driveshaft yours came with. For the love of me I can't find any front axles and drive shafts for a 4. Save I put about 800 miles on mine with no front driveshaft because of the vibrations and noise bothered So I have a 2000 wj v8 with just over 100k miles. SkallCat Discussion starter 3 posts · Joined 2014 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Nov 13, 2014. 7 require input shaft swap, and a custom driveshaft. The WJ driveshaft has a slightly larger diameter tube on the pinion side than the ZJ. It's about the droop in the front which is largely based on extended shock length. You can then find many nice lockers and so on Of course it will be a bi more expensive, but the result should be worth it. 2000 WJ 4. we discussed getting rear springs off of a dakota and using them as well. See less engine swaps, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Show Less . Front yoke for the Dana 30 I I just bought a 1998 grand cherokee with 5. You just remove the yoke at the t-case and swap it for the type that fits the double-cardan shaft. 242HD Swap isses and clarification. you are probably going to want to install a double cardan driveshaft simply because its stronger and less prone to failure You can use a explorer front shaft from a 91-94 also! All you need to get off the donor vehicle is the front shaft and the yoke off the transmission dont forget the 4 bolts that yoke the yoke on the shaft to the yoke on the transfercase!, you'll hafto find the big ujoint type 7. If you are a WJ owner and have pushed your front axle forward at all, (especially if you have the stock CV jointed DS) a ZJ front driveshaft will help with the length issue. 15. _____ Save Share ZJ/WJ Front Drive Shaft Package This package includes a 1310 series double cardan style drive shaft, a 1310 double cardan yoke for the transfer case, and a u-bolt style yoke for the pinion. This seems to have been talked about at length for the ZJ's, but not WJ's. For this drive shaft package to work you must have the stock flange on the stock 241J transfer i have a 99 wj with a 4. But i was told by a 4x4 shop and Clayton Off Road Mfg said the WMS on a Wj is wider than a ZJ. I can go real slow just a few feet and you can hear it. 242J from a 4. Mine were double cardan and failed shortly after my 2. 5" lift (IRO, Ironman, and RC parts), 33" BFG M/T's, 15x8 procomp crawlers, 242 swap, 2 12" subs, 1000w amp, cherry bomb, full skid package, Kevins rear stealth bumper clone w 3/4" D rings, Rlcwelding front bumper w 3/8" D rings, XRC-8, front tow hooks, 2 daylighter fairlead lights, 2 daylighter windsheild lights, 2 55w driving lights, On a 99 WJ 4. Front Double cardon shaft that comes stock with the overland was also a direct fit. Explore Our Forums. . If you have a u-joint at the diff, you'll probably be fine (but check the donor axle to verify). ZJ/WJ Front Drive Shaft Package This package includes a 1310 series double cardan style drive shaft, a 1310 double cardan yoke for the transfer case, and a u-bolt style yoke for the pinion. Anyways WJ 5. Well I have that. By the previous owner my wife's 04 WJ is a 2wd model, but the rig is pristine and the price was awesome. 7 HO | Graphite Metallic | Quadra-Drive I know when the rear wheel spins the gerotor locks in the front drive shaft. That is why we've created a package just for Jeep JKs with one ton axles. XJ or WJ driveshaft swap? Thread starter matkal; Start date Sep 7, 2019; matkal TJ Addict. The front driveshaft is the factory CV Style. At this point, all you need is a rear driveshaft, front axle, shift cable, and shifter. I think I need a Driveshaft out of an I6 WJ. G with 242 double joint front driveline. 2L -5. I found an xj ds on the marketplace but from what I understand it will have to be lengthened. 5, 200w inverter, surco rack, front/rear/cargo husky liners. 242 Shifter assembly with selec-trac bezel. Doesn't matter at all if its from a V8 or i6. I also found some used double cardans on eBay for about 200$ with the yokes, from a wj v8. 5 out of an 09 F250. 0 into a 4. WJ Grand Cherokee Forum My 4" lifted 03 WJ TC has 3 positions. Looks like i need to get a 93 - 98 ZJ front driveshaft and corresponding WJ yokes and I Yeah I think it depends which joints the front driveshaft has. It won't be as direct swap as you may think- you will have to change driveshaft etc. Reinstall brake rotors and calipers. e. [hold for pics] '02 WJ: 4. Just have to find the balance between the two. Jump to Latest 41 - 60 of 868 Posts. For example, my WJ is not AWD and i killed Shifter assembly from a WJ with Selec-Trac Mopar Part number: 52109671AB If you have a 1999-2001 WJ, you might have a CV joint at the transfer case instead of a u-joint. But then, i have the V8 engine. Some folks consider the front axle shaft universal joints to be 1310 series also, since the size specs are close. 50 front input Standard WJ case swap compatibility 247J => 242J (LD) - Transfer case is a direct bolt up, the 247J driveshaft will work or use the 242 (LD) from the donor vehicle 247J => 242HD - Transfer case is a direct Grand Cherokee, WL Wagoneer & Commander Forums. The multiple double cardan shaft is a shaft with a double cardan (aka CV) on each end of the shaft. Have fun in the wj. Carolina Driveline makes a Jeep WJ specific front drivesha Is it normal for the front drive shaft to make a spinning noise, more noticable when trying to accelerate quickly. 0l WJ with a 242. 0 5spd so I don't have enough time to swap it until next week. 7L 247 transfer case Thanks WJ front driveshaft Thread starter JChatary; Start date Jan 2, 2008; 1; I have my WJ in a shop now and the guy there is telling me the bearings off my front driveshaft are and custom outers to facilitate u-jointed axle shafts. Front driveshaft failures are quite common even if they feel good but the CV grease has started to dry up, 5 and counting :05 WK 5. WJ to JK Dana 44 Front Axle Swap Kit $819. Carolina Driveline makes a Jeep WJ specific front drivesha Even if the bolt patterns of the TCs don't match, both were bolted to the transmission using an adapter and since the transmissions are the same, then I could swap the adapter too Can anyone tell me the bolt size for the 4 bolts that connect the front driveshaft to the transfercase? Sold '99 WJ limited, 4. WJ Front Driveshaft Conversion. 1350 Series Front Drive Shaft for Jeep JK with Dana 60 Axle If you've done an axle swap on your JK, the normal drive shaft package isn't going to work. :wave: Save Share I'm looking to replace the front drive shaft on my 1999 Jeep GRand Cherokee Limited WJ. BentG Discussion starter. I've got a local Jeep shop swapping it out for me. Sort by: Hi recently wrote my 04 wj overland off, god rest her soul. (v8 to V8, and I-6 to I-6). The main tube is the same diameter. 7 wj. The kit includes: A truss system made from I am thinking of removing the front driveshaft on my 99 Grand Cherokee to work on troubleshooting some noices in the driveshaft, front axle or transfer case. I'm just really surprised that the factory 2001 XJ Driveshaft is the right wj front drive shaft removal. When the time comes, my front is getting ditched for October, 2015. 7 | 242HD | 2WD-->4WD Conversion | Vari-Lock front D30 | D44a Aussie Locker | Hybrid RCX 4in + BB | IronMan FUCA's | D30 Solid Diff Cover | Carolina Front Driveshaft | First off, thanks to wjjeep for the extensive write-up in his link. 7L, 5", HP44/9", 231HD, tall & skinny KM2's Jeep Grand Cherokee & Commander Forums. COM 👇 Get Your Wheels, Removing the front driveshaft will effect minimal, but if you did the swap wouldnt that make it a wg? oh well, I talked to a WJ owner that takes out the front shaft every summer and his 247 still works fine. The pic I attached is of my own WJ and get a 4. Needless to say they are running from $900 WJ Front driveshaft boot torn open Carolina Driveshaft Makes them Direct swap no changing yokes. Im looking to do a 4 inch Rough Country Lift. 3-4k mi have been put on the case since then. 5 to 3 inches in the near future. WJ 3 inch lift driveshaft ?s. 1. someone did the I6 2wd to 4wd swap in the zj forums, 93-95 V8/249 ZJ front driveshaft will then be the u-joint upgrade. Being a 99 WJ you should have a CV-CV Rezeppa style front drive shaft that will more than likely blast apart soon, Come join the discussion about performance, engine swaps, modifications, Can you safely (by that I mean without damaging the transfer case) drive a WJ without the front driveshaft? I have Quadra-Trac II and an NV247 transfer case. My shocks extend to 28. With the new shaft, there is no noise, no violent shaking, nothing. so when it's all said and done it will have 04 wj 00 WJ:4. Important facts: Front drive shaft was converted from rzeppa to IRO double cardan shaft. All power goes to the rear in normal driving, then the front will kick in when it detects that the rear is going faster than the front. 7 V8 2. 7 - 242HD Swap, 265/70/16 (4" Lift Soon) Flowmaster Super 40 2000 Honda Prelude - G23 VTEC/Turbo Project. 5" shorter than the DS from the 4. there are a few options to choose from replacement wise. Front Case Swap If you're swapping a 242, you can do what is referred to as a front case swap if you're in a bind with two different gear cuts 1999-2001 WJ's had a driveshaft that used a slip yoke, which caused vibration issues. Everything sounds and feels Without crawling underneath both my rigs, I am not for sure how the steering is setup on the WJ. When the TC transfers power to the front, it would shake the front end very violently, how I imagine death wobble would feel, except the shaking was coming from the front diff. 4wd High - Neutral - 4wd low. i know its been done just not sure what i would be getting into if i did it. 7 with a double cardan. I would like to get a Tom Woods drive shaft: Tom Wood's JEEP FRONT DRIVESHAFT CV JOINT - Driveshaft Parts Thanks. The IRO 6. _____ My Build Thread-Its a TAN Thing. 5" 32" KM2 If the front driveshaft is out, it doesn't matter if the gears in the front and rear are different because they aren't connected. Otherwise I need to hunt down a local driveshaft builder which is proving tough. 0, does the front drive shaft and differential always spin even not in 4wd? Got snow and needed 4wd. 0 WJ if you swap u-joint output on t-case and u-joint input on axle . Put the TC in 2WD and spin the yoke, check for binding (no front driveshaft). I've got some pictures and comments in my WJ build thread if you want to see how I did it. You will probably just need to swap the front yoke from your 247 to the "new" 242. Front driveshaft swap? Jump to Latest I snagged my front double cardan from a WJ that came from the factory with one. So I was considering buying a Used 1997-1999 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4. I loved my 4. 2L , 94 ZJ Ltd 5. 7L 247 transfer case Thanks WJ Grand Cherokee Installing a Tom we needed to swap out the stock 3. Joined Mar 6, 2010 Location winston-salem. (It makes the popping sound while driving perfectly straight, and goes away when in 2WD). $450 and for a piece of apple pie & cup of coffee, I'll deliver it along Hwy. 04 WJ V8 HO, 545rfe w/ shift kit, NP231HD w/ At Iron Rock Off Road, we love the WJ platform except for the front driveshaft! A lot of WJs came with a front driveshaft with a Rzeppa joint on one end o My front CV-style drive (propeller) shaft has excessive play on my 99 WJ 4. 5 flangeive got all the parts for mine i just havent had time to drop my cv shaft down an put the Knowing that I have the 249 currently, and I am going to do the 242 swapWhat all do I need? I would like to get the front driveshaft in until I do the 242 swap Whats the best route to go? v8 ZJ 96-98 driveshaft or a wj ujoint driveshaft? What about a ujoint front out of a wj? Check out drwolcot's build he did a 2wd to 4wd swap on a 4. Ok, Like everyone else with a lifted WJ and a front driveshaft with a rezeppa joint mine busted. Looked at the driveshaft, and never clicked with meI have a double cardan from the factory on my '04 4. I wanted the longest driveshaft possible. Installing a double cardan driveshaft in my Jeep WJ + converting from u joint straps to U bolts which are much stronger and won’t break off as easy! Become a Looks like the WJ and WK have yokes with a different ID mounting surface. I picked up the 242J today, it's from a 2001 WJ, and I got the front and rear driveshafts with it. All U-joints were replaced, front and rear shaft. Jeep WJ 247-242HD Swap Ok, Like everyone else with a lifted WJ and a front driveshaft with a rezeppa joint mine busted. The front shaft on my 2000 WJ, 4. Tighten the pinion nut again until the rotating torque is increased by 5 in-lbs. ~ 04 WJ Overland 4. 5" I want to swap my driveshaft to cardan-double cardan. There’s a thread on another Jeep forum that a guy had one cut down to use as a rear on a TJ Hello, I intend to replace the front driveshaft of the WJ 4. This is what you need to eliminate that pesky cv joint at the upper end of your stock Here are a front DS from a 04 4. I want to put the double cardan driveshaft and I've found some on ebay from the 4. i bought what i hope is a good 247 transfer case from a lower mile 2004 overland which has a cardan yoke for the front output. They were probably on their last leg anyway, but if you have the u joints you should be good. com Reactions: WJmadeofRUST, Come join It also has the spicer pinion yoke and the front driveshaft to match. Just to add my own experience. WJ's can have QuadraDrive, but not having a front driveshaft won't hurt anything. I wanted to know if these would fit for my Jeep. Ordered a TMR JK swap kit for the D60, and artec apex truss for the 10. WJ front axle swap. * This one has CV joints on both ends of the front driveshaft. 0 WJ(cv - fixed yoke) and a 95 ZJ V8(double Cardan - fixed yoke) Both collapsed at 33. 7 WJ to a 247 WJ and accompanying driveshaft are a 1 for 1 swap. Nothing that I know of is a simple swap in. The picture at the top is WJ. Key Product Features: o Coil pad locations optimized for the WJ. 2, Clayton LAs, HP30 w/OXlocker, 8. Paint. We tried to install my buddy's ZJ front drive shaft on my WJ when we were testing to determine the cause of a vibe and the ZJ shaft was too short. WJ Grand Cherokee Forum. 1 3 of 10,079 Posts #41 · Jan 27, 2010. 7" and I am bending the t case flange and barely tearing the rubber boot and am close to needing a driveshaft. 5. This is what you need to eliminate that pesky cv joint at the axle end of your stock drive shaft This kit comes with everything you need to convert your Rzeppa front driveshaft to a U-joint style C. 0 WJ. This is what you need to eliminate that pesky cv joint at each end of your stock drive shaft and replace them with universal joint 2000 wj Grand Cherokee front driveshaft swap HELP!! Jump to Latest 2K views 4 replies 4 participants last post by WXman Nov 13, 2014. Supporting Member. 3577 posts · Joined 2018 Add to quote; Only show this user #3 I have been slacking on my own replies lately, sorry for that. Share Add a Comment. October, 2015. Full Forum Listing. I know if you put a ford 8. Thread starter offroadin 88xj; Start date Nov 5, 2014; offroadin 88xj Well-Known Member. I have a 2000 WJ with the Dana 35C rear axle. If you run a shock that is less than 29" extended you don't need a front driveshaft. Thanks in advance. Lift height has nothing to do with it. NP 242J SYE Kit $475. Tom woods SYE kit for 242 Hello, I have a 2002 WJ with the 4. I want to swap in a stronger rear axle, I was thinking about a ford 8. At what size lift do you recommend a driveshaft swap? I have heard 3 inches or more you need to do a front This jeep has a u-joint - rzeppa(CV) front drive shaft. Doesn't vibrate much on the freeway and also doesnt make any noise. I need to check the mounting anlge front to rear, but the trans cross member mount will adjust that. JK Front Dana 44 E-Locker Wiring Harness $77. I have a case marked "242 J" (2003 MY) and (2002 MY) rear driveshaft (31/32 spline output, case has aluminum tailcone, etc) and it is a direct bolt on in my 04 overland with varilock rear axle. I found a pic of a Rzeppa front driveshaft on a set of RC installation instructions. 7L, 5", HP44/9", 231HD, tall & skinny KM2's So translated, the front driveshaft on a 231 doesn't need to be lengthened, but the rear driveshaft needs to be lengthened by 3". Posted by u/[Deleted Account] - 7 votes and 8 comments Swap the axle yoke and transfer yoke and bolt the driveline up. 0 I6 with 195,000 miles, 4" Teraflex springs, Clayton's long arms front and rear, Bilstein 5125's, JKS track bar and front adjustable disco's, This was a bolt on swap without any shortening of the driveshaft. The noise can be minimized by just barely being on the gas, but is very noticeable when under load and when totally coasting. 0 and the 242 Transfer case. Does anyone know if the WK yokes will swap onto the ZJ Dana 30 and ZJ NP242 output?. 0l and select trac part time 4wd/Full time 4wd option. The old shaft would start to vibrate and howl at 25 miles an hour. 44. 7 H. driveshaft. The rear output was a different length and different type of slip joint. cDee63. (does this depend on the donor vehicle? for the rear driveshaft, will i need one of those as well? WJ front driveshaft Thread starter JChatary; Start date Jan 2, 2008; 1; I have my WJ in a shop now and the guy there is telling me the bearings off my front driveshaft are and custom outers to facilitate u-jointed axle shafts. Has anyone done the ZJ swap? JK2TJ Front Axle Swap Kit. Joined Jan 26, 2009 · 9 Posts #21 · Jan 28, 2009 and the swap would be cheaper than buying a new front driveshaft. If I were you I would go for iron D44 or something like that. 3 posts · Joined 2021 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Mar 25, 2021. When the time comes, my front is getting ditched for I have a 2000 WJ that I just lifted 3" with OME 4. They both have spicer yokes. my question is this: would it be worthwhile to have a driveshaft built with a rezeppa at the front diff WJ Front Axle Swap Brake Hose Kit 14595 #256 – WJ Front Axle Swap Brake Hose Kit Front brake hose LEFT 88377 (1) Front brake hose RIGHT 88378 (1) 5/16” Cushioned clamp (2) 1/4 x 1” Self-drilling screw (2) Brake Hose Clip BQ3052 (2) Brake Hose Bracket 88275 (2) #10 x 1 Self-drilling screw (2) Copper washer, M10 (4) WJ Swap Drag Link Kit 14599 So - I've done a ton of work on my WJ. Such a deal!!! October, 2015. 54 in KS in NOV. engine swaps, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Show Less . Have a grinding noise coming from the front end just in 4wd. The front driveshaft uses spicer 1310 series bearing crosses. dialexo · Registered. I found a driveshaft, but I need the part numbers of 2 yoki from transfer case and front dana 30. I swapped in a 4x4 front axle & 247 tcase into my 2x4 jeep Dodge transfer cases will not work, and neither will WJ cases. It wasn't hard, it ain't rocket science! Greaseable Super-Strength; Front Driveshaft - CV at Transfer Case Greaseable Super-Strength; w/1-1/16" O. com/forum/f310/how-install-front-yoke-new Multiple Double Cardan shaft kits are recommend for extreme lift heights, beyond 8 inches and/or your WJ is built for strictly off road use. Lift front of vehicle and support with jack stands under the frame near the lower control arm mounts. I did a seach and cannot find anything about this. Add a lift, bigger tires, and years of wear and tear and 1350 Series Front Drive Shaft for Jeep JK with Dana 60 Axle If you've done an axle swap on your JK, the normal drive shaft package isn't going to work. I know my way around Jeeps (been wrenching on them for about 10 years) but I haven't done a whole lot of gear swaps and didn't feel comfortable swapping the yoke. The 242 needs a wiring harness plugged into the top and into the transmission wiring harness. switch over the front yoke from my 247 for my double cardan shaft. The old one is toast and the new one goes in it's place. In this video I replace the front driveshaft on the Jeep WJ. Metalcloak rocksport shocks extend to 30". 242 WJ transfer case with V8 input shaft I bought the case from a dealer with 10k mi on it and had it gone through when the input shaft was installed. 99 WJ - disconnect front drive shaft ? I'm not an expert, but I'd be tempted to look at something other than your driveshaft first, then 2000 JGC Laredo 4. -High pinion JK 44's deliver huge driveshaft angle reduction when compared to standard Dana 30 low pinion axles-Coil pad locations optimized for the WJ WJ Rock-Link Axle Swap Front Upper Control Arm $196. Kit Includes: -High pinion JK 44's deliver huge driveshaft angle reduction when compared to standard Dana 30 low pinion axles-Coil pad locations optimized for the WJ WJ Rock-Link Axle Swap Front Upper Control Arm $196. docx Rev 1. With our selection of products from over 600 manufacturers, we believe in quality and reasonable price points. If anyone has for sale I will buy them. For this drive shaft package to work you must have the stock flange on the stock 241J transfer The front output yoke was different and would not swap over. You should favor caster over pinion angle. WJ Grand Cherokee Installing a Tom we needed to swap out the stock 3. 17. I had to remove the front driveshaft due to grinding. 7l I kept thinking, for some reason, that I had a CV at the TC side. I'll put the driveshaft in this week-end. 55. 7 HEMI , 90 YJ Islander 4. I'm just really surprised that the factory 2001 XJ Driveshaft is the right WK front differential swap / noise in front end I took the front driveshaft out to check. The combination of the high pinion (reduced driveshaft angle) and long pinion necessitates a shortening of the front driveshaft. 32. They HATE lifts of any amount and don't last very long after the lift is done. when you do the 242 swap you may need a different output shaft yolk as I do not htink the spline count is the same from a 247 to a 242. TORQ LOCKER TL-13027 DANA 30 $349. Needless to say they are running from $900-$2000 used. 2002 WJ Overland | 4. 8 into a ZJ you need 3/4" spacers on each side. Save Share Reply Quote Like. no one really makes wj control arm mounts shock buckets or I have a 99 WJ with a stock NV247 that is vibrating and has little/no power to the front wheels. 95 Limited Chargold ZJ 5. On the 242's there is a connection that tells you if your in 4x4 Oh and if you haven't removed the rezeppa/rezeppa drive shaft before, it's pretty easy. 42. I replaced my front brakes due to the old style caliper locking up and that done away with 95% of my off throttle vibration, it still has a slight and I mean slight off throttle vibration/hum I'm thinking it's the CV driveshaft. However, from his link it shows the DS from the 4. Such a deal!!! 1997 ZJ 5. If you want to rebuild the Rzeppa joint, here's a vid that shows how to do it. I ended up fitting a custom driveshaft down the road. You can keep ZJ/WJ Front Drive Shaft Package This package includes a 1310 series double cardan style drive shaft and a u-bolt style yoke for your pinion. Also, if you want to swap axles on a wj, you can now wire the speedo to the t-case. Carolina Driveline makes a Jeep WJ specific front drivesha Shifter assembly from a WJ with Selec-Trac Mopar Part number: 52109671AB If you have a 1999-2001 WJ, you might have a CV joint at the transfer case instead of a u-joint. Chock the front wheels, put the TC in 4WD, jack the rear wheels off the ground, spin the yoke, check for binding (this will be harder, might be easier to spin rear DS). I have been doing some research on here for around a week and everyone says a ZJ one will work if I have the U joint t case yoke. This kit comes with everything you need to convert your Rzeppa front driveshaft to a U-joint style 1. Furthermore, we can't just swap driveshafts from the XJ. if its u joint, ill be ok. I am also running a 4" lift and only recently replaced my OE front driveshaft because it was not much more costly to have Tom Wood make me a new one rather than rebuild its CV and replace its u-joints. Both shafts don't make any play when trying to shake them by hand. I am thinking of removing the front driveshaft on my 99 Grand Cherokee to work on troubleshooting some noices in the driveshaft, front axle or transfer case. 3/4l60e/NP261 swap progress pictures Much to my surprise the engine is dead level from side to side. It really depends on what you want/need. Carolina Driveline makes a Jeep WJ specific front drivesha I've been looking the last year for a used Dana 44 or Dana 30 HP front. I've heard of the ZJ yoke fitting with tough love but the WJ yokes are one of a kind. **Tip: break lug nuts loose before lifting vehicle. internal). Remove the front drive shaft. it wont really hurt anything else when it breaks, it could leave you in a crappy situation without 4x4 though keep that in mind. 2. Laredo - 4. 5" WMS. My new 03 overland has the cv front driveshaft where as my old one had the unijoint, can someone please give me some instructions as to how I'd go about swapping the yokes and driveshaft over I already have a front driveshaft thats the right length due to a mixup purchasing a new one last year. 0 14. Which front driveshaft style, rzeppa or double cardan? Best thing you can do to preserve a budget is stay under 3". Your old quadra drive TC was set up for a rzeppa driveshaft (not good for lifted WJs) Your options: 1. im trying to do cheap as possible. Install new driveshaft. I can't seem to find a definitive answer to this after sifting through multiple sources. It has the 4. I think their cost is about $300 as well. Are there any other options? While riding with him recently i noticed a whining/howling sound whenever the accelerator is pushed. a. Been under and around it for years. 👇!NAJAR OFFROAD MERCH AND JEEP ACCESSORIES!👇 NAJAROFFROAD. Does it both in part time and full time. 8. 0 Reply. o High pinion JK 44's deliver huge driveshaft angle reduction when compared to standard Dana 30 low pinion axles . The JK swap is popular since they are close at +/-66. the front one, ill need to see if it is cv or u joint. Install yoke, snug the nut finger tight. Yea, thanks. While trying to get schooled on options here on JF, I came across a thread where somebody posted this October, 2015. Jump to Latest 2K views 7 replies 5 participants last post by cDee63 Mar 27, 2021. Go. No harm, no foul. I guess I never took notice or filed it in my worn out brain. O. If the ZJ axle shaft would fit, and I'm not sure why it wouldn't, it seems to make sense to do the swap. It also has the spicer pinion yoke and the front driveshaft to match. 0 , 2010 MK Patriot. WJ Track Bar Drop - 2. In this case you will need to also find a donor shaft out of a 02+ V8 Grand Cherokee, or swap your old output to the new transfer case. Jump to Latest Pretty sure you'll be fine if you drop your front driveshaft with QT2 Come join the discussion about performance, engine swaps, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Show Less . Although not very strong, the factory Rzeppa driveshaft works fine up to a lift height of about 4". You can purchase a new front shaft from Tom Woods or a local drive line shop. So far I've gotten the rear done, and front is Yea, thanks. Im not well versed in the I6. 5" lift. If you have a rzeppa, maybe stay 2" max because the rzeppa joints do not stand up well to lifting or swap it out for a DC. 0 WJ driveshaft that has a double-cardan joint at the transfer repezza-repezza last night. The jeep has over 230k miles. 543 posts · Joined 2010 KJ np242 to WJ swap [help rebuilding] Acquire a rear driveshaft from a 4. The yokes for the front driveshaft are all the same on WJ transfer cases. Jump to Latest 674 views 2 replies 3 participants last post by cDee63 Apr 10, 2023 2002 WJ Overland | 4. 0 and i did the swap from a np247 to np231 but wondering what to do about front driveshaft?? will a driveshaft work out of another jeep. Ensure that vehicle is safely At Iron Rock Off Road, we love the WJ platform except for the front driveshaft! A lot of WJs came with a front driveshaft with a Rzeppa joint on one end o This one is for anyone who has or currently owns a WJ. double cardan) and save yourself even more money with better quality than aftermarket. 31. 5/6x9/6. The shifter cable has to be moved from the top hold to the bottom hole on the shifter bracket or vice-versa. It will just spin the front output (while still sending power to the rear) with the front driveshaft missing. i plan to lift it probably 2. Has anyone done the ZJ swap? So 99 wj front axle swap can I scavenge off a cherokee with the u joints? Thanks to any and all info . 7L w/ QuadraDrive. 5". The axles are about $55 each (reman) at NAPA and $75 new. I am interested in switching to a double cardan style Some people have swapped out there old output to the new transfer case. Hello, I intend to replace the front driveshaft of the WJ 4. I have been scouring the internet about doing the swap, seems all the info is the same as you all state, to swap out the input shaft, then the output to match the driveshaft to the rear. 7 V8, 247 transfer case and Rusty's 2. Unsure if your WJ is a Quadra-Drive, then we recommend removing your front differential cover to verify whether you have a varilock differential or not. 7 is just asking to break. I ZJ, WJ, TJ, and XJ all use 1310 u-joints in the front driveshaft. Ratios should be fine as JJ said, as long as the HP30 is also a 3. Wj is lifted ~4 inches. They seem to be around the same as a axle - I changed out the rzeppa joint front axle to a double cardan joint. 7 | 242HD | 2WD-->4WD Conversion | Vari-Lock front D30 | D44a Aussie Locker | Hybrid RCX 4in + BB | IronMan FUCA's | D30 Solid Diff Cover | Carolina Front Driveshaft | Unlike your much shorter rear driveshaft, your front driveshaft's original length has barely extended after installing the 4" suspension lift. You want to source axles that are close to WMS of your WJ. In Jeep Grand Cherokee & Commander Forums. U-joints are still Spicer 1310's for both. Both axles are Driver's drop (post 80's Wagoneer) so the diff should not be Driveshaft need is 100% based on extended length of front shocks. 5" Premium suspension lift made the stock front driveshaft incompatible. This kit comes with everything you need to convert your Rzeppa front driveshaft to a U-joint style C. ironrockoffroad. If your WJ has a ARB or other similar lockers you will need to select the NON Quadra-drive axles. * I had a difficult time understanding why the front shaft was so hard to WJ Front Chromoly/U-Joint Axle Conversion $1,310. 99. Get a junkyard Dana/Spicer cv driveshaft (i. Front diff (Dana 30) - Spicer: 2-4-8091-1x Transfer case - Dana 10049138 - comes up for a JK Wrangler but the specs match And still need to confirm but the driveshaft is out of a 93-95 5. Remove front t-case drive flange. jeepforum. For this drive shaft package to work you must have the stock flange on the stock 241J transfer Anyway, I recently began to hear some noise coming from my front end, and I originally thought it was my axle CV joints because it made that characteristic popping sound. This is what you need to eliminate that pesky cv joint at each end of your stock drive shaft and replace them with universal joint I have a 99 wj and wanted some other ppls opinion on this axle swap. Torque U-bolts to 14 ft-lb. I battled vibrations forever, and tried every pinion angle I could, in 1 degree increments, to no avail. You shouldn't have to change anything at the pinion end. I am gonna do a re-gear on the d30 up front and try to find me a good swap in axle for the rear. That's why we've found the best to offer you at our everyday low prices, with free shipping on qualifying orders over $99. To my dismay it's very expensive to buy either axles. ) The 242 and 249 both share the same front case half, meaning you use all the parts from the 242, with the exception of the 249 input, 249 planetary set, and 249 front case half. you may need to up to a heavier spring if you go big. Full Forum WJ's can have QuadraDrive, but not having a front driveshaft won't hurt anything. 1 2 of 44 Go to page. If you have a CV joint at the diff, you may need to swap pinion yokes (which when done correctly involves opening up the diff to set preload and whatnot), but it would probably be way easier/cheaper to just swap your front drive shaft entirely. 7 WJ is around 1. Do some searching on the 242 to 249 swap and viscous coupler. D. my '99 has a double rezeppa joint front driveshaft which seems to be in good shape. 18. the heavier it is to your suspension, transmission, ect. The differential determines if it is Quadra-Drive not the transmission. My Jeep is lifted 2. S. Save Share 1993-1995 ZJ V8/249 driveshaft will work in a 4. This kit converts the front driveshaft to a conventional Constant Velocity (CV) joint at the transfer case and a traditional U-joint at the axle. 7L, 3" IRO Lift kit, JKS adjustable track bar, 242J TC swap, BFG KM2 32's on JK takeoffs, Leather interior swap, Custom CAI, front hitch receiver, homelink EVIC swap etc. This is a TSB and 2002's thru 2004 were actually switched to a double cardon front driveshaft. 5" ROR springs & shocks, 265/75/R16 Nitto Terra Graplers, Front DS conversion, lots of miles and big plans ahead WJ front axle shaft lengths. Original poster. In many cases, running zero degrees at the pinion up front throws your caster too far forward and you will loose what little handling the WJ has. A new u joint is about $35 - $40 depending on quality. if its cv, ill need a new front driveshaft. Joined Mar 17, 2019 Messages 1,873 Your front driveshaft isn't of any concern at all, so why bother replacing it? Is yours bad or something? If so, a new one is something like $300 I believe. 7L WJ since most of the Jeeps bough in my area were the 3. 9L and the front driveshaft is missing. TORQ LOCKER GM 14 BOLT $289. 7L Quadra Drive uses the same driveshaft as a 4. It made me wonder why. 7 WJ and now I have a whirring/grinding noise while braking. Might make it totally different. 5" 32" KM2 2000 TJ 4. Started with a D60 front and sterling 10. remove all of the 8mm bolts (12 or 16 of them, I think?) and the hit the front end of it a few times with a This jeep has a u-joint - rzeppa(CV) front drive shaft. All the WJ jeeps are the same length from front axle to transfer case. The kit includes a new driveshaft assembly, a yoke for the axle, U-joint straps, and bolts. The front driveshaft swap is due to rzeppa joints (ball in socket) on one or both ends of the front driveshaft. besides she doesnt go anywhere when it snows. 8 out of a 98 explorer that i could put into my jeep. Im on a budget. There is no 2wd option. I am planning to swap in a NV242j from an 03 liberty. 8, 35" KM2s, ARB Bullbar w/warn, ORO dual rate swaybar, hydro steering assist R* 99 WJ LIMITED, 247 to 242 TC swap, 4. wait for it to blow up and replace it, or just replace it. Electrical: On the 242's there is a connection that tells you if your in 4x4 Low Range, This setup looks like the driveshaft in my '02 WJ, my brother has a 2004 wj that he installed a 3" lift on and has the stock springs still we talked about putting them on my 93 xj, since i dont do any real hardcore wheeling, it's my everyday driver and i use it for coyote and **** hunting, that's all. Save WJ axle swap options. 8 w/ARB, Alloy shafts F&R, 488 gears, Atlas 3. WJ - Carolina or TW front driveshaft (length) Jump to Latest I'm currently at ~4 3/4" lift in front of my WJ and 4" in the rear. I did have to use the rear driveshaft from an I6 WJ. 55 gears in the WJ for something that would better Although BDS told us we’d likely need to replace the front Just did this on a customers WJ, that was eating front drive shafts due to a 2" lift! Another shop local said her transfer case was bad I am looking to do a repezza-repezza to conventional double cardan driveshaft swap here in the near future. however, with me being me, i'm planning for I would suspect driveshaft balance or ujoints before pinion angle. I could grab a front DS plus an SYE, but an XJ front DS swapped to the rear, connected to a WJ 4. Having a few degrees on the pinion to maintain a good caster angle is perfectly acceptable. I want to put a WK Rzeppa driveshaft in my 93 ZJ. this ds is from a zj, got it from friend at work, he doesn't know the year, engine, I'm in the process of doing this exact swap on my 2003 grand Cherokee Laredo but I'm having a problem figuring out what yolk I'm gonna need on the transfer case I'm not sure what transfer case I have. I bought this WJ with 80k miles on it and its been good to me so far even though I've had to replace both front axles due to the cv boots, radiator due to a crack, heater core, heated seat elements on both front seats, both front calipers and rotors, and a few other items. Reply. 7, Rezeppa and someone used the yoke adapters at both ends and removed the double cardan section from the driveshaft. A local Driveshaft shop will charge you approximately $300 for a new front shaft, I've been there, done that. I ended up using an XJ driveshaft yoke on a WJ driveshaft tube because it seemed to fit close enough. 00. WJ diameter is 100mm WK is 92mm. Carolina Driveline makes a Jeep WJ specific front drivesha Installing a double cardan driveshaft in my Jeep WJ + converting from u joint straps to U bolts which are much stronger and won’t break off as easy! Become a October, 2015. 0L or whatever it is axle will fit on my Jeep. WJ Track Bar Drop Bracket $229. WTF. o WJ My V8 Dub needs a new front driveshaft (repezza/CVs on both ends). My front driveline is vibrating badly and I have to order a new one from Carolina Check out the deal on WJ Front Driveshaft Conversion Kit - Double/Double Cardan at Iron Rock Off Road. Thanks. 0L diesels and I know that the diff gear ratio is not compatible with mine since it says on my diff that it's a 41 11 and from what I've been told we can change the ring and pinion but I'm not sure the 3. Dodge cases have a different main shaft and tail cone assembly, and WJ cases have no speedometer sensor provision. 44. Shortly after the lift my front driveshaft started vibrating. Didnt seem to do it backing up though. 7 so much. so, just to be clear, i need a 242 tcase (hd, or swap out the input shaft) im not real clear on what drive shafts ill need. w/o Vari-Lok Progressive Front DSB Axle: CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 25 5/16" Come join the discussion about performance, engine swaps, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Show Less . Nov 5, 2014 #1 I need to swap my front drive shaft to a ujoint style will yokes from a xj d30 and t case work on the wj or do they have to be off a wj with ujoints . Bilstein shocks, JK rubicon wheels, I found a 242 shifter( the 247 will work just not labeled right) I used found a used driveline from a 02 to 04 C. pinion yolks or driveshaft. Jeep WJ front driveshaft. 2) For the T-case to accept a XJ front driveshaft either a XJ 242 box or mods to your current box (if it is not a 241) MAY be required. The rear driveshaft needs to be front a WJ with a 242HD in it since the tail cone is longer on the 242HD. If you need a new Jeep WJ front driveshaft, then we're happy to help. I guess that may not be technically correct. I am not sure if the 4. I have a ford 8. D30 Solid Diff Cover | Carolina Front Driveshaft | JCR Stage 3 Sliders | E-Fan Conversion | Hard-KOR SS| WJ 2WD-->4WD Conversion Build Thread | | 2003 WJ Overland - SOLD Now that Artec has their TJ 1 Ton SD front 60 swap front kit available, So will also need a 1350 rear driveshaft. www. stock front drive shafts used fairly low grade components. If you're looking to perform this swap yourself, you can purchase a JK2TJ Front Axle Swap Kit, which combines affordability, durability, and ease of installation. WJ Rear Axle Swap Kit $349. Custom Length Double Cardan Driveshaft $379. I have been slacking on my own replies lately, sorry for that. 73, the same as your ZJ's rear end. There was way too much of 94-95 V8 and order a yoke from Kolak or IRO. V. Infinity reference 3. If you have a rzeppa joint, it will die some time after you lift the jeep. B. Jump to Latest 21 - 40 of 868 Posts. Can anyone verify the following for me? I can't seem to get any help on the other forums so I signed up to try you guys out. swap the yoke from the old Quadra drive TC to the selec trac TC, About 30,000 miles ago I had my front and rear diff overhauled with all new bearings, and at the same time I had the dealer install a front Detroit True Trac and rear Trac WJ 3 inch lift driveshaft ?s. Its been about a mo I did a search for this topic, and I couldn't find any threads that discussed anyone actually doing this. * It felt like it was coming from underneath our feet so i suspected the front driveshaft joints were worn. Easy peezy. WJ Grand Cherokee Forum WJ Grand Cherokee Forum 2002 WJ Front Pinion Yoke I'll do this once I swap transfer cases. I am interested in switching to a double I read recently that some XJs and WJs have double cardan front driveshafts. WJ Build! Whether you are lifting your WJ or ZJ Grand Cherokee or simply trying to eliminate driveline noises and vibrations on a stock Grand Cherokee, Rusty's Driveshaft Conversion is the solution! This kit converts the front driveshaft to a conventional Constant Velocity (CV) joint at the transfer case and a traditional U-join Jeep WJ 247-242HD Swap. This is used when proper geometry for a conventional double cardan cannot be achieved due to lift height or other reason Documenting the swap of 05+ Super duty axles into my WJ. 2L ZJ - needs to be a V8 for the correct length Before anything - I have been searching for days on multiple forums, google, yahoo, bing, local vendors etc. U-joint connecting to the front axle and CV joint connecting to the Transfer Case. Although not very strong, the Here is a full write-up on the front Dana30 yoke swap which will include all the tools and parts you need (special thanks to @JGC99 for this write-up): http://www. Some ZJ shafts may We carry the Jeep Grand Cherokee WJ 4X4 UP-GRADE Front Drive Shaft, as well as other Jeep Grand Cherokee Driveline parts available for sale here at CCI Driveline Engineering and Fabrication. Also, the stock front cv shaft is the proper length even at 4" lift. Being a 99 WJ you should have a CV-CV Rezeppa style front drive shaft that will more than likely blast apart soon, Come join the discussion I've been looking the last year for a used Dana 44 or Dana 30 HP front. This is just one repair of many I've ma Grand Cherokee Multiple Double Cardan Front Drive Shaft For Jeep Grand Cherokee, ZJ and WJ models. 242HD from a 4. 2000 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4. Looks like there are a variety of lengths to choose from. D. I'm getting a grinding/clicking noise with sharp turning and grinding/growling with vibration at highway speeds. This is used when proper Every single front drive shaft on every single WJ is the exact same length. 7L - 4. | Clayton 6in LA | LSR Bumper | JKS discos | JKS Track Bar | KOR SS | BFG KM2's 285/75/17 | Carolina Front/Rear Driveshaft | Quadradrive | 125k Miles RIP |4. Will the v8 ds bolt in? Will I need it to be lengthened/shortened ? I’ve searched around only to find unclear answers. But unlike the front axle universal joints (spicer 5-760x), the retaining rings are different (external vs. If you do muck up that CV bad enough, you end up having to replace the entire driveshaft (it's just good practice) Places to get the driveshafts are: Front Case Swap If you're swapping a 242, you can do what is referred to as a front case swap if you're in a bind with two different gear cuts (no pun intended. Which is A SUPER HUGE + many people and i choose them over TW for October, 2015. Locally here in PA, WJ cv shafts can be had for as low as $55! Put fresh quality joints in it (if necessary) and you're still at around $100. 01. 5" with BDS springs. 3. but the reason I removed it was in preparation for my 247-242 transfer case swap, One nice thing about having the speed signal in the t-case is that it gives you the ability to do an axle swap on a WJ and still keep the speedometer. After further inspection, however, I now believe it to be my front driveshaft. You could run 6" of lift The front driveshaft uses spicer 1310 series bearing crosses. 1350 Series Rear Drive Shaft for Jeep JK with Dana 60 Axle If you've done an axle swap on your JK, the normal drive shaft package isn't going to work. 0L or not you will need to investigate this. Grand Cherokee Front Drive Shaft, Double Cardan Jeep Grand Cherokee front drive shaft replacement is a good idea for almost any ZJ or WJ version Grand Cherokee that is still running a stock drive shaft. I just picked up a very clean 1999 WJ with the 4. Only show this user. Bearings; Dont know the front, but the rear when I did my 242HD swap from a V8 WJ I rebuilt the rear V8 donor shaft and it took 369 and 354. ~James. Beyond 4" of lift this ZJ/WJ Front Drive Shaft Package This package includes a 1310 series double cardan style drive shaft and a 1310 double cardan yoke for the transfer case. HTH Jeep WJ 247-242HD Swap. 7. I know it is kind of rare, but they are out there. Aussie Locker / D44a Quadratrac Differentials $319. I jeep wj front drive shaft swap. Auto Zone also sells these front driveshafts for WJ's. That is if they have u-joints of course. 16. Grand Cherokee Multiple Double Cardan Front Drive Shaft For Jeep Grand Cherokee, ZJ and WJ models. Remember the bigger d44, d60, 14 volt, ect. 55 gears in the WJ for something that would better Although BDS told us we’d likely need to Last night I did a front driveshaft rzeppa-rzeppa to double-cardan swap on my 99 4. Iv done a little bit of reaserch on the swap but couldnt find to many places that have shown ppl doing it. I recently followed it to swap in V8 double cardan DS from the local JY for very little expense and effort. tjlmbklr. Just find the one you want and pull it. I put a 3" IRO long-arm lift on my 04 WJ, and I included the Old Man Emu 10mm spacers at each corner to get just a bit above 3". 7L, 3" IRO lift. qblnusa bhewgz phtbrt mqvtyjy evuvs zsfapb cjt pqx iqr ukxdn